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| Subject | Re: Lisp in Forth. Stage 1: a silly reader, no evaluation. |
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| References | (1 earlier) <5b4d0272-eafb-4759-a25d-6bc131f97004@googlegroups.com> <nvur78$6d4$1@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl> <nvv54o$7bp$1@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl> <MPG.328d3647d7686a829896bb@news.virginmedia.com> <383e1358-6ae0-41b5-a601-1892f2175631@googlegroups.com> |
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.forth |
| From | "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> |
| Organization | FORTH, Inc. |
| Date | 2016-11-09 14:29 -1000 |
| Message-ID | <iO2dnTF-JNbuIr7FnZ2dnUU7-bnNnZ2d@supernews.com> (permalink) |
On 11/9/16 5:59 AM, foxaudioresearch@gmail.com wrote: > On Wednesday, November 9, 2016 at 8:36:37 AM UTC-5, jim wrote: >>> In article <nvv54o$7bp$1@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl>, albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl says... >> >>>> >>>> I've collected half a dozen c-sources and one Pascal source, each of them does >>>> a better job in explaining implementation details of Forth. Some of them >>> ^^^^^ >>> lisp >>> >> >> you might be interested in an article john posted on his website - I've just >> added it to my forum link - relating to documentation and non-use >> of forth >> http://johntech.co.uk/html/idiotchild.html > > There is a great amount of truth about Forth and the Forth community in this > article. The part about keeping the gold rather than making something with it > cuts close to the heart. > > The author's recognition of the potential of Forth contrasted with the reality > is hard to hear. It's sad that he didn't explore the "reality" a little bit further. He'd have found professional-grade products with extensive documentation, detailed books published on Amazon at reasonable cost, web sites of professional Forth programmers and programming services supporting professional application developers, and case histories of complex projects done in Forth. > I think the efforts by people here to provide Forth systems for the small boards > that are out in the market are a nice way to introduce Forth to a larger global > audience. > > Exposure to engineering faculties and becoming part of curricula is another > avenue and boards with Forth systems and ideally exercises might be tempting > enough for profs to move forward. ? But it requires a significant sales effort > so the board makers (TI maybe?) need to be part of the process. Several microprocessor and board suppliers have provided significant assistance to FORTH, Inc. and other vendors, and assisted with marketing. > However taking an evangelistic approach will never work well. It requires a > business model where there is compensation for people's effort to motivate the > masses. > > I know, I know "Thank you Captain obvious" > > But business is not rocket science. > > To business people it's just common sense and a lot of work. Yes. FORTH, Inc. has been in that business successfully for over 40 years, serving professional and amateur Forth programmers, providing training, documentation, and engineering services. MPE has been doing it almost that long. Cheers, Elizabeth -- ================================================== Elizabeth D. Rather (US & Canada) 800-55-FORTH FORTH Inc. +1 310.999.6784 5959 West Century Blvd. Suite 700 Los Angeles, CA 90045 http://www.forth.com "Forth-based products and Services for real-time applications since 1973." ==================================================
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Lisp in Forth. Stage 1: a silly reader, no evaluation. albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2016-10-31 19:35 +0100
Re: Lisp in Forth. Stage 1: a silly reader, no evaluation. Kaz Kylheku <221-501-9011@kylheku.com> - 2016-10-31 19:15 +0000
Re: Lisp in Forth. Stage 1: a silly reader, no evaluation. luser droog <mijoryx@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-31 23:34 -0700
Re: Lisp in Forth. Stage 1: a silly reader, no evaluation. hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-11-03 11:33 -0700
Re: Lisp in Forth. Stage 1: a silly reader, no evaluation. Michael Barry <barrym95838@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-03 21:59 -0700
Re: Lisp in Forth. Stage 1: a silly reader, no evaluation. luser droog <mijoryx@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-03 22:26 -0700
Re: Lisp in Forth. Stage 1: a silly reader, no evaluation. albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2016-11-01 13:03 +0100
Re: Lisp in Forth. Stage 1: a silly reader, no evaluation. luser droog <mijoryx@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-08 18:56 -0800
Re: Lisp in Forth. Stage 1: a silly reader, no evaluation. albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2016-11-09 10:45 +0100
Re: Lisp in Forth. Stage 1: a silly reader, no evaluation. albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2016-11-09 13:34 +0100
Re: Lisp in Forth. Stage 1: a silly reader, no evaluation. jim <anon@example.com> - 2016-11-09 13:34 +0000
Re: Lisp in Forth. Stage 1: a silly reader, no evaluation. foxaudioresearch@gmail.com - 2016-11-09 07:59 -0800
Re: Lisp in Forth. Stage 1: a silly reader, no evaluation. jim <anon@example.com> - 2016-11-09 17:34 +0000
Re: Lisp in Forth. Stage 1: a silly reader, no evaluation. november.nihal@gmail.com - 2016-11-09 14:06 -0800
Re: Lisp in Forth. Stage 1: a silly reader, no evaluation. "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-11-09 14:29 -1000
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