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Re: Snit: and the lies continue. See here for examples.

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Diesel <nobody@haph.org> wrote:
> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
> news:hm4qgsFrcn9U1@mid.individual.net Thu, 02 Jul 2020 01:10:51 GMT
> in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: 
> 
>> On 7/1/20 5:45 PM, Diesel wrote:
>>> David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org>
>>> news:ThHIG.67536$iXb1.4658@fx03.ams1 Wed, 24 Jun 2020 12:02:58
>>> GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
>>>> I think you mean that you'd like to beat me - like your parents
>>>> did to you as a child?
>>> 
>>> David, I won't deny the thought has crossed my mind on several
>>> occasions; what I'd do if I ever met you in person. Sure. That
>>> being said, I always found myself coming back to the reasonable
>>> decision; the only reasonable decision, talk to you, try to
>>> explain things to you in person. I think alot of our initial
>>> problem stemmed from a misunderstanding, or a series of them.
>> 
>> The same is true with you and I. We had some misunderstandings.
> 
> No, it's not. 

Then you are lying when you say we disagree. Interesting. 

...

>> I want to move forward in peace.
> 
> For some reason, I seriously doubt you do. 

Don’t use your challenges with trust to stop you from being civil. I am not
asking you to vouch for me or the like — just to be civil. But I think you
have dug your hole too deep to allow yourself to do so. A shame. You are
not overall a bad fellow as far as I can tell. 

>> To you it is of paramount importance that I "admit", whether I
>> agree or not, to your view of things. And since I do not agree
>> this means you need to me to lie. When this is pointed out you go
>> back to you merely need me to agree to your view. Which is what I
>> keep saying. 
> 
> Stop trying to twist things around to get out of or otherwise try to
> explain away what you did with that post there. 

You clearly keep begging me to say I agree — even though you have been told
I do not. There is no twist there.

...

>> Why not just move forward? 
> 
> That would require me to let you off the hook for what you did,

I have let you off the hook for lying about me, such as when you made up
stories of my blindly trusting David about you. 

Interesting how you cannot move forward when you disagree with someone. 

> without holding you accountable for having done it. 

What “accountability” are you suggesting I hold you to over your poor
behavior? Personally, and no offense is meant here, you could say I was the
Queen of England and I could still be civil. Maybe if you mattered more to
me, as I clearly do to you, disagreements between us would bother me more.
Then again I disagree with those I am close to — so maybe not. 

> That wouldn't be
> an honest thing of me to do, 

There is nothing dishonest about moving forward in peace after a
disagreement, even when no agreement is reached. Curious how the very idea
of what it means to be honest is so unclear to you. No wonder you keep
begging me to lie for you. 

> and it wouldn't be right for you to get
> away with lying about me. 

What are you doing to atone for your lies? 

>> OK, we disagreed in the past. 
> 
> This isn't a matter of a disagreement, 

Great! If you no longer disagree then move forward in peace. Or civility.
But, contrary to your claim, you are still stuck on our disagreement. 

...

> Rather than any of us here take your detractors words for anything, 
> including the so called Snit list, let's see if anything on it is 
> true, and I'll be the guinea pig for the experiment. 

Ah, so Carroll succeeded in getting the list in your mind. A list that has
nothing from me in it. He manipulated you. I did warn you about that. Thank
you for noting how he successfully got it in you mind. 

> You mistakenly assumed those degrees
> would be your friend; 

I never brought them up. Again you show how you have been manipulated.
Curious. I very much wish I had been wrong. 

> that you are superior to anyone else you run
> across online. Well, that's "clearly" not the case here, Snit. 

Yet you spend your time setting me up as your main villain in your personal
story — using morally juvenile rankings to decide which of us is above the
other. You have no idea what that says about you and your views. No
inflection is needed, though, to see how you place me in such an important
role — as I have noted, while it is not flattery I seek from you it is
clearly a form of such. Also explains why you have spent so much time
trying to impress me with your skills — yet never really showing you can do
anything, even the moral things, you claim you can. 

You clearly want me to believe you and respond poorly when I show doubt or
disagreement. You fear letting me down — for example you spoke of what you
could find out about the Usenet flood bot, but then showed more excuses
then insight. That is fine — as I have said you owe me nothing, just as I
owe you nothing. 

Meanwhile I am just happy to be civil. I do not need your approval or
admiration, I need not beg you to agree with me or lie and say you do. I
need not do as you do and set myself up as a grand hero with you as my arch
enemy. I do not rank you as better or worse but 

Do you even see how much it clearly bothers you to have failed to earn such
a position with me? If not, well, before you read your inevitable reply to
this post pause and re-read it. See if you can catch how many times you
show yourself to be frustrated at a simple disagreement / misunderstanding.




-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks
and ignore the message time and time again.

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Snit: and the lies continue. See here for examples. Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-03 08:08 +0000
  Re: Snit: and the lies continue. See here for examples. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-03 09:06 +0000
    Re: Snit: and the lies continue. See here for examples. David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-03 11:39 +0100
      Re: Snit: and the lies continue. See here for examples. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-03 09:33 -0700
        Re: Snit: and the lies continue. See here for examples. David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-03 20:30 +0100
          Re: Snit: and the lies continue. See here for examples. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-03 19:54 +0000
            Re: Snit: and the lies continue. See here for examples. David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-03 21:53 +0100
              Re: Snit: and the lies continue. See here for examples. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-03 21:00 +0000
              Re: Snit: and the lies continue. See here for examples. Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-05 05:54 +0000
                Re: Snit: and the lies continue. See here for examples. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-04 23:01 -0700
                Re: Snit: and the lies continue. See here for examples. David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-05 08:32 +0100
                Re: Snit: and the lies continue. See here for examples. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-05 08:16 +0000
                Re: Snit: and the lies continue. See here for examples. Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-05 09:06 +0000
                Re: Snit: and the lies continue. See here for examples. Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-05 09:06 +0000
                Re: Snit: and the lies continue. See here for examples. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2020-07-05 07:33 -0700
                Re: Snit: and the lies continue. See here for examples. Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-05 09:06 +0000
                Re: Snit: and the lies continue. See here for examples. Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-10 05:27 +0000
      Re: Snit: and the lies continue. See here for examples. Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-05 05:54 +0000
    Re: Snit: and the lies continue. See here for examples. Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-05 05:54 +0000
      Re: Snit: and the lies continue. See here for examples. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-04 23:46 -0700
        Re: Snit: and the lies continue. See here for examples. Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-05 09:06 +0000
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