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Re: Windows?

From	owl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: Windows?
Date	2016-02-16 22:13 +0000
Organization	O.W.L.
Message-ID	<ghjcmbnjd83.jai@rooftop.invalid> (permalink)
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Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
> 
> "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote in message 
> news:thjdw03ra.safe@rooftop.invalid...
>> Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:hgjdi30.jfie03@rooftop.invalid...
>>>> Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>>>>> http://www.techtimes.com/articles/133874/20160216/hackers-hold-hollywood-hospital-s-computer-system-hostage-demand-3-6-million-as-patients-transferred.htm
>>>>> "
>>>>> Hackers have taken the computer system of the Hollywood Presbyterian
>>>>> Medical Center hostage, demanding 9,000 Bitcoin or $3.6 million.
>>>>> "
>>>>
>>>> Content-Length: 311
>>>> Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
>>>> Server: Microsoft-HTTPAPI/2.0
>>>>
>>>
>>> What's that, their webserver?
>>>
>>
>> Yeah.
>>
>>> Netcraft says the server is Mongrel running on Linux hosted by SoftLayer
>>> Technologies.
>>>
>>
>> Where does it say that?  If I go to netcraft, it says IIS/8.5
>> Is this not them?
>> http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://www.hollywoodpresbyterian.com
>>
> 
> That is what your link says. The one I used is:
>    http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=hollywoodpresbyterian.com
> 

Whenever I connect to either it comes up 184.175.96.210 which is
the IIS one.  The linux one listed is 74.86.205.60.

> 
> 
>>> If they're stupid enough to host *any* web server on the same machine as
>>> their backend patient data then they were asking for trouble.
>>>
>>
>> Not necessarily the same machine, but it reveals a reliance on Microsoft
>> technology.  When the web server is IIS, I would guess that the backend
>> is SQL Server.  There is a patient portal on the website, so internal
>> data can at least be touched via the web site.
> 
> I'm not convinced about the reliance on MS technology. Companies are pretty 
> hetro these days with what they use. Connecting a web page to a database 
> isn't any more difficult with Oracle or Teradata.
> 

Yeah, but it's probably Windows though.

> The web page would never access the db directly anyway. It would go through 
> a middle-layer that manages all this stuff. The web page isn't running stuff 
> like "select * from patients where patient_id = ${url.id}
> 
> The middle-layer is what connects to the db. They're not a big hospital (430 
> beds) and they bought all the finance, hospital and patient management 
> software from some 3rd party.
> 
> They can buy and use whatever software they need. But IT and security is 
> probably being done in-house.
> 
>>> It's like putting a Windows server next to a fuel tank aboard a cruise 
>>> ship.
>>>
>>
>> LOL!
>>
> 
> I got a kick from the videos of the cruise ship that left NJ and took 4,500 
> passengers into a huge storm. I'm curious what the thought process is for 
> someone to think that sending a ship into a huge storm is a good idea. Have 
> schedules taken over common sense?
> 

MS Anthem of the Seas.
LOL  MS strikes again.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_Anthem_of_the_Seas

http://newjersey.news12.com/news/storm-battered-cruise-ship-sets-sail-1.11468047?pts=629669
<quote>
The ship suffered damage during a major winter storm off the coast of
North Carolina last week and lost half of its propulsion system.
</quote>

"Lost its propulsion system"

That's what happened to that Navy cruiser running on NT back in the day.
"Captain, I divided by zero."
"Shit, call a tug boat."

Thread

Windows? Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-16 19:14 +0100
  Re: Windows? "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-02-16 13:42 -0500
    Re: Windows? Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-16 19:54 +0100
      Re: Windows? "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-02-16 14:19 -0500
        Re: Windows? Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-16 20:52 +0100
          Re: Windows? "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-02-16 15:23 -0500
      Re: Windows? Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-02-17 12:44 +0000
  Re: Windows? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-02-16 20:05 +0000
    Re: Windows? "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-02-16 15:34 -0500
      Re: Windows? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-02-16 21:05 +0000
        Re: Windows? "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-02-16 16:42 -0500
          Re: Windows? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-02-16 22:13 +0000
            Re: Windows? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-02-16 19:41 -0500
              Re: Windows? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-02-17 00:49 +0000
                Re: Windows? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-02-16 20:05 -0500
        Re: Windows? Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-02-17 14:16 +0000
          Re: Windows? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-02-17 18:59 +0000
  Re: Windows? John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 05:11 -0800

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