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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.sys.mac.system |
| Subject | Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File |
| Date | 2019-02-03 22:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <gbp9ilF5rnuU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (5 earlier) <q359hb$93k$1@news.albasani.net> <gbmu57Fkb28U1@mid.individual.net> <q36rpt$f8k$1@news.albasani.net> <gbotdgF38i2U1@mid.individual.net> <q37p7q$vi1$1@news.albasani.net> |
Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> wrote: > On 2/3/19 2:23 PM, Jolly Roger wrote: >> Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> wrote: >>> On 2/2/19 8:23 PM, Jolly Roger wrote: >>>> On 2019-02-02, Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> wrote: >>>>> On 2/2/19 11:40 AM, Jolly Roger wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> All Mac users should be using FileVault. With FileVault everything on >>>>>> the drive is encrypted, and there is no need for secure delete. >>>>>> >>>>> With File Vault on, I understand that I have to enter the password when >>>>> the computer starts. >>>>> >>>>> But does "start" mean only when I hit the start button and power my iMac >>>>> on and it boots- >>>> >>>> Yes. >>>> >>>>> or does the pw also have to be entered on wakeup from >>>>> sleep or when the screen blanks from inactivity? >>>> >>>> No, that's what System Preferences > Security > General > Require >>>> password after sleep or screen saver begins is for. And all Mac users >>>> should do that as well - otherwise anyone can walk up to your computer >>>> and access all of your files. >>> >>> My iMac is used in my home office so there's no walk-up access issue. >> >> Until there is. Bad idea. > >>> But I usually come back to it a dozen or more times a day. I had thought >>> that FileVault required the PW to be entered on wakeup too and didn't >>> want to have to enter my strong, lengthy PW each time. >> >> Nope. >> >>> That's why I created the encrypted sparsebundle to secure my >>> confidential files. I leave it mounted all the time when I'm at home and >>> only unmount it when I leave the house. >> >> Another bad idea. >> >>> If I change to FileVault, is there a command to lock the computer- or >>> would I need to shut down or reboot to secure the computer? >> >> Is there a command to lock a Mac? Did you really just ask that? >> > I did, because I don't know the answer. > > So can I lock down a FileVaulted Mac via mouse or keyboard command- or > do I need to power it off or restart? When your screen is locked, nobody can access your data. Set the computer to lock the screen automatically when you are away from the computer. You can also lock the screen manually. <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201236> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202824> > I'd also add that there's no one in the house besides my wife and > myself- so as I said above, there is no walk up issue. Until it is. One can think of all sorts of scenarios where someone might be in your house and be able to walk up to your computer and access everything in it because you stupidly decided not to lock it. A repair man, a cop, an intruder, you name it. > As for the encrypted sparsebundle scheme which I've been using as long > as I can remember with no intrusions, it's really not a bad idea. Not locking/ejecting it when you are away is a bad idea. > If I > could again securely delete a file, it would still be the ideal security > plan for me. Encrypt the whole drive and there is no need for that. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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How to Securely Delete a Data File Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2019-01-30 19:21 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Ed Norton <norton@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-30 19:38 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2019-01-31 04:37 +0000
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2019-01-31 09:12 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2019-01-31 15:41 +0000
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-31 22:55 +0000
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2019-02-01 08:42 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2019-01-31 12:48 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Ed Norton <norton@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-31 13:29 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Elden <usenet@moondog.org> - 2019-01-31 14:24 -0600
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2019-02-01 05:24 +0000
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-31 13:41 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2019-01-31 13:50 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-31 14:30 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2019-02-01 05:26 +0000
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2019-02-01 08:47 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-01 10:57 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2019-02-01 16:18 +0000
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2019-02-01 15:26 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2019-02-01 21:03 +0000
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2019-02-01 16:12 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-02-01 21:57 +0000
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2019-02-02 11:23 +0000
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2019-02-02 10:24 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2019-02-03 05:12 +0000
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2019-02-03 19:14 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-02-01 21:56 +0000
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2019-02-01 18:34 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-01 19:49 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-02-01 17:05 +0000
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2019-02-01 15:29 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-02-01 22:02 +0000
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2019-02-01 18:37 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2019-01-31 09:14 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Percival John Hackworth <pjh@nanoworks.com> - 2019-01-31 07:59 -0800
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-31 11:04 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2019-02-01 05:28 +0000
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2019-01-31 12:49 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-02-01 03:21 +0000
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Ed Norton <norton@nowhere.com> - 2019-02-01 04:49 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-01 10:57 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-02-01 17:02 +0000
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2019-02-01 16:16 +0000
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-02-01 17:02 +0000
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2019-02-01 12:56 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-01 13:05 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2019-02-01 13:34 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-01 13:48 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2019-02-03 12:01 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-02-01 18:51 +0000
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2019-02-01 15:27 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2019-02-01 20:52 +0000
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2019-02-02 08:09 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2019-02-01 21:05 +0000
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-02-01 22:01 +0000
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2019-02-02 08:14 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-02-02 16:40 +0000
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2019-02-02 18:36 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-02-03 01:23 +0000
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2019-02-03 08:54 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-02-03 19:23 +0000
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Ed Norton <norton@nowhere.com> - 2019-02-03 14:49 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-02-03 22:23 +0000
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2019-02-03 17:16 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-02-03 22:51 +0000
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2019-02-04 08:38 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2019-02-04 12:12 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-02-04 18:00 +0000
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2019-02-04 13:10 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-02 11:43 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2019-02-03 05:13 +0000
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2019-02-03 19:15 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2019-02-04 00:41 +0000
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2019-02-04 11:25 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-04 13:15 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2019-02-04 15:28 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-04 16:17 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2019-02-04 16:40 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-04 18:07 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2019-02-06 19:53 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-06 20:01 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2019-02-07 14:00 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-07 14:08 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2019-02-07 14:09 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2019-02-07 14:10 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2019-02-08 02:41 +0000
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2019-02-08 02:39 +0000
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-03 19:44 -0500
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-02-01 22:00 +0000
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-02-01 22:02 +0000
Re: How to Securely Delete a Data File- RESOLVED Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2019-02-07 10:31 -0500
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