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Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands

From Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.checkmate
Subject Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands
Date 2019-01-09 00:05 +0000
Message-ID <g9ks67F3l5sU7@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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Just Wondering <JW@me.com> wrote:
> On 1/8/2019 2:30 PM, Snit wrote:
>> On 1/8/19 2:05 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>>> On 1/8/2019 1:17 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>> On 1/8/19 1:14 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>> On 1/8/2019 12:58 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/8/2019 11:38 AM, Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>>> On 1/8/2019 12:12 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 1/8/2019 11:04 AM, Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 1/8/2019 6:59 AM, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Just Wondering <JW@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/7/2019 11:18 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just Wondering <JW@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/7/2019 4:34 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We make it quite hard to have a fully automatic weapon.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not really.  Anyone with a clean background can get one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Government regulations have artificially raised the price,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but that's another matter.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> There are hurdles. As their should be.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Those "hurdles" are not "quite hard".  There are only three 
>>>>>>>>>>> hurdles:
>>>>>>>>>>> (1) You have to pass a background check, which if you have a 
>>>>>>>>>>> clean
>>>>>>>>>>> background is not hard.  (2) You have to pay a $200 tax.  (3) You
>>>>>>>>>>> have to be able to pay the purchase price.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> ["As their should be" - another example of your functional 
>>>>>>>>>>> illiteracy.
>>>>>>>>>>>   That wasn't a type, it was the incorrect word choice.]
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> So you deem background checks to be not a big hurdle.
>>>>>>>>>> Great. Let’s make them universal for all gun purchases. Good to 
>>>>>>>>>> see agreement here.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Liar.  There is no agreement here.  I just pointed out that
>>>>>>>>> you lied when you wrote "We make it quite hard to have a fully
>>>>>>>>> automatic weapon."  I am totally opposed to universal background
>>>>>>>>> checks for all gun purchases.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Meaning you don't care if bad guys have guns, and meaning you 
>>>>>>>> think your right to arms is unlimited.  Well, you're wrong - the 
>>>>>>>> right is not unlimited.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Meaning just what I said, I am totally opposed to universal
>>>>>>> background checks for all gun purchases. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For no rational reason.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Among other things, a UBC law is unenforceable without universal
>>>>> gun registration, and THAT will never happen.
>>>> 
>>>> You already said it was not a big deal to have background checks.
>>> 
>>> Liar.  You wrote, "We make it quite hard to have a fully
>>> automatic weapon."  I showed your statement was bullshit,
>>> because aside from ponying up money, you only "have to pass
>>> a background check, which if you have a clean  background
>>> is not hard."  That has nothing to do with the advisability
>>> of a law requiring universal background checks.
>> 
>> You should talk to this guy:
>> 
>> Just Wondering
>> -----
>> Those "hurdles" are not "quite hard".  There are only three hurdles:
>> (1) You have to pass a background check, which if you have a clean
>> background is not hard.  (2) You have to pay a $200 tax.  (3) You
>> have to be able to pay the purchase price.
>> 
>> Clearly to him they were not a big deal.
> 
> Clearly your functional illiteracy prevents you from seeing the 
> difference between "hard" (or not hard) and "big deal" (or not a big 
> deal).  To illustrate, posting your social security number online for 
> the world to see would be not hard, but it would be a big deal.  There 
> are all sorts of invasions of your privacy that it would be not hard to 
> allow, but would be a big deal to allow.  It would be not hard to open 
> your home to vagrants, but you wouldn't do it because that would be a 
> big deal.  It would be not hard to crash your car, but doing it would be 
> a big deal.  There are a myriad crimes that would be not hard to commit, 
> but the consequences of getting caught at it would be a big deal.  Even 
> you should now be able to get a glimpse at the difference between "not 
> hard" and "not a big deal".
> 

You twist and split hairs to try to back out of your hypocrisy. It was
clear the hurdles you spoke of were not a big deal to you. 

You flip flop a lot. 

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Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2019-01-04 09:03 -0800
  Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2019-01-04 12:04 -0800
  Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-05 06:07 +0000
    Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2019-01-04 22:41 -0800
      Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-05 06:52 +0000
        Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> - 2019-01-04 23:03 -0800
          Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-05 07:08 +0000
            Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> - 2019-01-04 23:10 -0800
              Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-05 07:16 +0000
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> - 2019-01-04 23:43 -0800
              Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2019-01-05 03:41 -0500
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-07 16:34 -0700
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-07 23:01 -0700
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-08 06:18 +0000
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-08 01:49 -0700
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-08 13:59 +0000
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-08 12:04 -0700
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> - 2019-01-08 11:12 -0800
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-08 12:38 -0700
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-08 12:57 -0700
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-08 13:36 -0700
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Sir Gaygory's Owner's Owner 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2019-01-08 14:42 -0600
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-08 13:47 -0700
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Sir Gaygory's Owner's Owner 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2019-01-08 14:52 -0600
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> - 2019-01-08 11:58 -0800
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-08 13:14 -0700
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-08 13:17 -0700
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-08 14:05 -0700
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-08 14:30 -0700
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-08 16:33 -0700
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-09 00:05 +0000
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-08 17:09 -0700
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-08 17:42 -0700
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2019-01-09 00:44 -0500
                Re: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "Michael Ejercito" <mejercit@hotmail.com> - 2019-01-09 09:47 -0800
                Re: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2019-01-10 00:20 -0500
                Re: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands BeamMeUpScotty <Not-Sure@idiocracy.gov> - 2019-01-10 06:53 -0500
                Re: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2019-01-11 00:44 -0500
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2019-01-09 00:43 -0500
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-08 13:14 -0700
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-08 14:11 -0700
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-08 14:29 -0700
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-08 16:37 -0700
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-09 00:05 +0000
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2019-01-08 12:08 -0800
          Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2019-01-05 03:39 -0500
            Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-07 16:35 -0700
        Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2019-01-05 02:26 -0500
        Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-05 03:17 -0700
        Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-05 03:19 -0700
          Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2019-01-07 22:19 -0500
            Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-08 06:18 +0000
              Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-08 01:50 -0700
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-08 13:59 +0000
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-08 12:00 -0700
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 12:02 -0700
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-08 13:16 -0700
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-08 14:00 -0700
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 14:02 -0700
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-08 14:22 -0700
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> - 2019-01-08 13:24 -0800
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> - 2019-01-08 11:11 -0800
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2019-01-09 00:40 -0500
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-09 06:39 +0000
        Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2019-01-05 07:08 -0800
          Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-05 18:03 +0000
            Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2019-01-05 10:33 -0800
              Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-05 18:45 +0000
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> - 2019-01-05 10:54 -0800
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-05 19:16 +0000
                No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-05 12:40 -0700
                Re: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-05 19:56 +0000
                Re: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> - 2019-01-05 12:09 -0800
                Re: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-05 13:27 -0700
                Re: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-05 14:02 -0700
                Re: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2019-01-05 13:50 -0800
                Re: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2019-01-07 22:21 -0500
                Re: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-08 06:18 +0000
                Re: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2019-01-08 04:24 -0800
                Re: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2019-01-09 00:54 -0500
                Re: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-09 06:39 +0000
                Re: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2019-01-09 05:46 -0800
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2019-01-05 11:06 -0800
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-05 19:16 +0000
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2019-01-05 11:35 -0800
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2019-01-07 22:25 -0500
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-08 06:18 +0000
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2019-01-08 04:22 -0800
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-05 19:52 +0000
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2019-01-05 13:18 -0800
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-05 22:15 +0000
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> - 2019-01-05 14:16 -0800
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2019-01-05 13:41 -0800
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2019-01-07 22:23 -0500
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-08 06:18 +0000
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-05 12:10 -0700
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-05 19:52 +0000
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-05 13:21 -0700
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-05 13:32 -0700
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-05 13:49 -0700
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-05 14:04 -0700
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> - 2019-01-05 13:37 -0800
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> - 2019-01-05 12:55 -0800
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-05 15:41 -0700
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> - 2019-01-05 14:47 -0800
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> - 2019-01-05 12:24 -0800
          Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> - 2019-01-05 10:46 -0800
            Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-05 19:16 +0000
            Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2019-01-05 12:21 -0800
              Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-05 13:57 -0700
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2019-01-05 18:36 -0800
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-05 19:49 -0700
              Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> - 2019-01-05 13:36 -0800
    Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-05 03:15 -0700
      Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2019-01-07 22:19 -0500
        Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-08 06:18 +0000
          Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> - 2019-01-07 23:30 -0800
            Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2019-01-08 03:23 -0500
              Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-09 05:49 +0000

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