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Re: "Before Eden" a short story by Arthur Clarke

From ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>)
Newsgroups rec.arts.sf.written
Subject Re: "Before Eden" a short story by Arthur Clarke
Date 2018-08-13 20:25 +0000
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In article <265cc5c8-29cd-4d20-893e-033512ab8223@googlegroups.com>,
William Hyde  <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Sunday, August 12, 2018 at 8:02:51 PM UTC-4, a425couple wrote:
>> Over in my old thread, "OT opinion - Sorry Nerds--",
>> "desiege" mentioned "Before Eden" a short story by Arthur Clarke
>> 
>> That is one I had never heard of and it was not in my books.
>> It was quite interesting.
>> 
>> I read it from here:
>>
>http://www.gdhsenglish.com/thompson/assets/pdfs/ENG3U1%20pdf's/Short%20Stories/BEFORE%20EDEN.pdf
>> 
>> One can listen to it (Helps me keep on track) from here:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQHwIdST2PQ
>> 
>> And here, is a synopsis of it:
>> http://thescifidigest.blogspot.com/2012/04/before-eden-arthur-c-clarke.html
>> 
>> "Before Eden - Arthur C. Clarke
>> Clarke's Before Eden starts as any generic planetary exploration
>> would. Two men from an expedition who investigate the polar regions
>> of Venus and find the less harsh atmosphere ready for the evolution
>> of life. But has it already? The plot takes through a vivid
>> scientific expedition that visualizes barren Venusian landscape
>> and something even more curious, a moving shape that hints at
>> early evolution.
>> The story's success is that it doesn't tread a cliched path, but
>> instead takes the reader by surprise in the very last paragraph."
>> 
>> or
>> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22608644-before-eden
>> 
>> one comment is "One of the overlooked gems of Clarke's oeuvre.
>> A very atmospheric first contact story, with a really unexpected
>> (and cautionary) twist ending. Though the past or present existence
>> of life on Venus is a big enigma, this is a great bit of hard SF on
>> the topic. Read it (or listen to it) with an open mind and you'll
>> be pleasantly surprised."
>
>In 1961 Clarke published three stories which are (IMO) very good, and
>quite different from his usual work.
>
>"Before Eden" "Death and the Senator" and "Hate" take a darker view of
>the world than Clarke generally did, before or after.  This doesn't - as
>far as I know, correlate with any negative event in Clarke' life.
>
>Perhaps is was a conscious attempt to expand his range as a writer.  If
>so, it worked.  He might have gone on in this vein, but the next year he
>caught Polio, and soon after that 2001 began to take up most of his
>fiction writing time.
>
>William Hyde

Huh.  That's curious.  Wasn't the Polio vaccine available in England
by that time?  It was here.
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"Before Eden" a short story by Arthur Clarke a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> - 2018-08-12 17:02 -0700
  Re: "Before Eden" a short story by Arthur Clarke William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2018-08-13 12:10 -0700
    Re: "Before Eden" a short story by Arthur Clarke "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2018-08-13 14:31 -0500
    Re: "Before Eden" a short story by Arthur Clarke ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-08-13 20:25 +0000
      Re: "Before Eden" a short story by Arthur Clarke djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-08-13 21:27 +0000
        Re: "Before Eden" a short story by Arthur Clarke Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-08-13 14:49 -0700
          Re: "Before Eden" a short story by Arthur Clarke djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-08-13 23:41 +0000
            Re: "Before Eden" a short story by Arthur Clarke J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-08-13 21:57 -0400
    Re: "Before Eden" a short story by Arthur Clarke - "Death and the Senator" a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> - 2018-08-13 19:32 -0700
    Re: "Before Eden" a short story by Arthur Clarke desiegel60@gmail.com - 2018-08-14 13:14 -0700
      Re: "Before Eden" a short story by Arthur Clarke djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-08-14 20:40 +0000
        Re: "Before Eden" a short story by Arthur Clarke David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-08-31 07:17 -0500
      Re: "Before Eden" a short story by Arthur Clarke William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 12:42 -0700
  Re: "Before Eden" a short story by Arthur Clarke frank.scrooby@gmail.com - 2018-08-15 00:26 -0700
    Re: "Before Eden" a short story by Arthur Clarke Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-08-15 01:18 -0700
      Re: "Before Eden" a short story by Arthur Clarke frank.scrooby@gmail.com - 2018-08-15 01:53 -0700
        Re: "Before Eden" a short story by Arthur Clarke Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-08-15 02:11 -0700
          Re: "Before Eden" a short story by Arthur Clarke frank.scrooby@gmail.com - 2018-08-15 03:35 -0700
          Re: "Before Eden" a short story by Arthur Clarke Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 10:11 -0400
            Re: "Before Eden" a short story by Arthur Clarke Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-08-15 13:15 -0700
              Re: "Before Eden" a short story by Arthur Clarke Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 10:17 -0400
          Re: "Before Eden" a short story by Arthur Clarke hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2018-08-15 16:57 -0700
            Re: "Before Eden" a short story by Arthur Clarke ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-08-16 00:11 +0000
            Re: "Before Eden" a short story by Arthur Clarke djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-08-16 00:25 +0000
              Re: "Before Eden" a short story by Arthur Clarke desiegel60@gmail.com - 2018-08-16 09:47 -0700
                Re: "Before Eden" a short story by Arthur Clarke - into stowaway a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> - 2018-09-03 20:10 -0700
                Re: "Before Eden" a short story by Arthur Clarke - into stowaway a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> - 2018-09-03 20:38 -0700
        Re: "Before Eden" a short story by Arthur Clarke Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 07:27 -0700
        Re: "Before Eden" a short story by Arthur Clarke Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-08-15 13:06 -0700
        Re: "Before Eden" a short story by Arthur Clarke Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-08-15 15:56 -0700
        Re: "Before Eden" a short story by Arthur Clarke "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 12:22 -0500
          Re: "Before Eden" a short story by Arthur Clarke Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-08-16 16:16 -0700
    Re: "Before Eden" a short story by Arthur Clarke djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-08-15 13:57 +0000
      Re: "Before Eden" a short story by Arthur Clarke Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-08-15 15:49 -0700

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