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Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion

From Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion
Date 2018-07-27 12:06 -0700
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On 7/27/18 9:26 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 9:47:52 AM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote:
>> On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 08:54:25 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>>
>>> http://thehill.com/policy/finance/382033-deficit-nears-600-billion-in-
>> first-half-of-2018
>>>
>>> It's easy to live "the good life".  Just "borrow" more money!
> 
> Speaking of costs to the taxpayer, your article didn't mention:
> 
> <https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/jan/23/donald-trump/does-immigration-policy-impose-300-billion-annuall/>
> 
> When even a left leaning 'fact checker' is forced to admit Trump is
> "half right" on this (which must've killed them!),

Your evidence that Polifact is left leaning? Are there any fact checkers 
you think are not?

One challenge here is FACTS themselves are generally "liberal". When you 
fact check things like climate change, for example, the conservative 
denial is simply wrong.

> then you should
> probably start paying more attention to the issue. Partisan spin aside,
> the bottom line is we won't really know the extent, cost-wise, until we
> take it more seriously. All the projections in the world won't help until
> this happens... I hold out no hope it ever will.
> 
>> <https://www.thebalance.com/national-debt-under-obama-3306293>
>>
>> "Depending on who you ask, President Obama added anywhere from $983
>> billion to $9 trillion to the national debt. Who's lying? None of them.
>> There are three ways to look at the debt added by any president. "
>>
>> Looks like Trump's got another $8 trillion to go to be as useless as the
>> Smiling Black Man.
> 
> Even for all the regulations Trump is cutting, along with the taxes, I
> expect this number to continue to rise, maybe at an even higher level
> than it did under Obama.

And income inequality will grow, as will the number of shootings and 
other violent crime. Civil unrest will increase under Trump.

To be fair, income inequality has been growing since the '80s... under 
BOTH parties.

> Like a number of other things that are often
> attributed to them (or they want to take credit for), Presidents don't
> have as much to do with things like jobs, unemployment, GDP, etc.
> as many want to believe.
> 
> I know you like him... but I don't like Trump as a person, never have.
> I *do* like the ideas of trying to get along with enemies,

I repeatedly hold out olive branches to you only to have you spit on them.

Trump is not only trying to get along, he is giving in to N. Korea and 
Russia and causing problems with our allies. He is doing a HORRIBLE job 
here, even if the idea of meeting with N. Korea was a good one.

> enforcing borders,

Nobody is suggesting not to. You are showing you believe the right wing 
straw man.

> balancing trade deficits and urging NATO partners to pay
> their share. My take is that no one with a working brain needs to
> over-analyze these things, if they are, it's a clear indication that a
> partisan agenda just reared its ugly head. All I see from the Dems
> at this point are the same old slogans (that fewer and fewer are
> believing them over) and 'kill Trump'.

Listen to the progressive side of the party... the corporate side is 
horrid. And their in-fighting may very well lead to another four years 
of Trump.


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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Trump drives GDP to 4.2% SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-27 13:28 +0000
  Re: Trump drives GDP to 4.2% SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-27 13:28 +0000
  Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-27 08:54 -0500
    Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 07:44 -0700
    Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-27 15:47 +0000
      Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 09:26 -0700
        Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 12:06 -0700
          Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 13:04 -0700
            Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 13:29 -0700
              Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 14:21 -0700
              Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-28 08:19 -0700
                Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-28 08:39 -0700
                Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-28 09:05 -0700
      Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 11:59 -0700
        Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 12:05 -0700
          Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 12:17 -0700
            Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 14:10 -0700
              Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-27 21:19 +0000
                Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-28 08:16 -0700
                Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-28 08:55 -0700
              Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-28 08:13 -0700
          Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-27 20:42 +0000
            Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 13:52 -0700
    Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 11:51 -0700
    Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 19:30 +0000
      Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 13:04 -0700
      Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-07-28 09:42 -0700
        Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-28 09:49 -0700
          Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-28 12:49 -0700
            Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-28 13:06 -0700
            Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-29 10:00 -0700
              Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-29 10:26 -0700
              Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-29 12:23 -0700
                Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-29 12:59 -0700
                Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-29 13:50 -0700
                Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-29 16:18 -0700
        Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-30 07:32 -0500
          Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-07-30 06:25 -0700
            Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 06:43 -0700
            Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-30 09:00 -0700
          Re: Trump drives federal deficit to $1 trillion Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-30 08:59 -0700
  Re: Trump drives GDP to 4.2% -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-07-27 07:26 -0700
    Re: Trump drives GDP to 4.2% Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 09:30 -0700
      Re: Trump drives GDP to 4.2% Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 12:07 -0700
    Re: Trump drives GDP to 4.2% Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 11:52 -0700
  Re: Trump drives GDP to 4.2% Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 11:14 -0700
    Re: Trump drives GDP to 4.2% Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 11:55 -0700
    Re: Trump drives GDP to 4.2% Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 12:10 -0700
  Re: Trump drives GDP to 4.2% Kompyler <kompyler@toke.com> - 2018-07-29 00:40 +0000
    Re: Trump drives GDP to 4.2% Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-28 18:16 -0700
    Re: Trump drives GDP to 4.2% Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-28 19:03 -0700

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