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Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter

From Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter
Date 2018-07-27 11:14 -0700
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On 7/27/18 6:13 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 07:03:26 -0500, chrisv wrote:
> 
>> SilverSlimer wrote:
>>
>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I don't think that anyone has denied that radical Muslims are killing
>>>> innocent people, in countries all over the world.
>>>
>>> Actually, the media _constantly_ does
>>
>> Not.
>>
>> No one's "argument" was "killed".  Period.  *Everyone* acknowledges the
>> existence of these religious radicals.  *No one* denies that they are
>> motivated by their "faith".
> 
> Lie. The latest Muslim killer was clearly motivated by his "faith" but
> the news agencies across the planet were quick to judge that "mental
> illness" was the cause and not Islam itself.

As the do with most Christians. Um, so? Do you know that he was not 
mentally ill? I do not know enough about the case to say -- but I bet 
you do not either.

> This despite the fact that
> people who knew him have said that nothing in his behaviour suggested any
> kind of mental issues.
> 
> <https://globalnews.ca/news/4348575/toronto-gunman-mental-health-family/>
-----
WATCH: New details have been revealed about 29-year-old Toronto Danforth 
shooter Faisal Hussain, including that he was on the police radar for 
mental health issues dating back to 2010.
-----

> <https://apnews.com/95f5f7b52c174e909329fab4eb79ac00>
-----
“Our son had severe mental health challenges, struggling with psychosis 
and depression his entire life,” his family said in a statement Monday.
-----

Your own links contradict your claims.

>>> by making it sound like the killer is not a "true Muslim," that the
>>> actions are "not representative of the faith"
>>
>> They aren't.  It's a fact that the vast majority are not murdering the
>> "infidels".
> 
> Because they don't have the means to do it, not because they don't want
> to.

Ah, but Carroll continues to refuse to speak of your VERY open bigotry 
toward Muslims. LOL!

> Once the percentage of Muslims in a country reaches about 16%, the
> murders come and they come fast.

Six of the ten countries with the highest murder rates are predominantly 
Christian.

Your biases are showing again.

> The only way to keep these people
> peaceful is to make sure they are never allowed to go over 1% which is
> impossible anyway. They will procreate with any woman they can find, even
> if she is related.

You do not want Muslims to even have children... a condition you do not 
set for Christians.

You want special entitlements for Christians. Got it.

> <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/11/muslim-population-england-
> wales-nearly-doubles-10-years>
> <https://steemit.com/politics/@squawker.org/inbreeding-in-islam-over-70-
> of-muslims-are-the-product-of-incest>
> 
>>> or that the killer had "mental issues" despite no evidence of any such
>>> thing.
>>
>> It could be argued that anyone who murders innocent people, for their
>> superstitions, is mentally-ill.
> 
> Except that Islam *DEMANDS* that its adherents kill innocent people so
> long as they are not Muslim:

Much like Christianity, sure. But thankfully most Christians and Muslims 
do not buy into that crap.

> “Kill them wherever you find them and drive them out from where they
> drove you out. Persecution is worse than slaughter.” 2:191
> 
> “When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks.” 47:4
> 
>   “Fight against those who do not obey Allah and do not believe in Allah
> or the Last Day and do not forbid what has been forbidden by Allah and
> His messenger even if they are of the People of the Book until they pay
> the Jizya with willing submission and feel themselves subdued.” 9:29
> 
> “When the sacred months have passed, then kill the Mushrikin wherever you
> find them. Capture them. Besiege them. Lie in wait for them in each and
> every ambush but if they repent, and perform the prayers, and give zacat
> then leave their way free.” 9:5
> 
> “They ask you about fighting during the sacred months. Tell them,
> fighting therein is a great sin but a greater sin is to prevent mankind
> from following the way of Allah, to disbelieve in him.” 2:217
> 
> “When your Lord revealed to the angels, ‘Truly I am with you. So, keep
> firm those who have believed. I will strike terror into the hearts of
> those who have disbelieved. So, strike them at the necks and cut off
> their fingers.’” 8:12
> 
> “Oh you who believe, fight those of the disbelievers who are close to you
> and let them find harshness in you.” 9:123

Deuteronomy 17
-----
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy 
God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight 
of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone 
and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or 
any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be 
told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, 
behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is 
wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that 
woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that 
man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.
-----

Deuteronomy 13:
-----
6 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you 
love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go 
and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have 
known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one 
end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to them or listen to them. 
Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. 9 You must 
certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them 
to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10 Stone them to death, 
because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought 
you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 11 Then all Israel will 
hear and be afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil thing again.

12 If you hear it said about one of the towns the Lord your God is 
giving you to live in 13 that troublemakers have arisen among you and 
have led the people of their town astray, saying, “Let us go and worship 
other gods” (gods you have not known), 14 then you must inquire, probe 
and investigate it thoroughly. And if it is true and it has been proved 
that this detestable thing has been done among you, 15 you must 
certainly put to the sword all who live in that town. You must destroy 
it completely, both its people and its livestock. 16 You are to gather 
all the plunder of the town into the middle of the public square and 
completely burn the town and all its plunder as a whole burnt offering 
to the Lord your God. That town is to remain a ruin forever, never to be 
rebuilt.
-----

And there is more, in Numbers and elsewhere. And then there are all the 
times it is OK to kill your kids and women and more.


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-26 13:25 +0000
  Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 15:19 +0000
    Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-26 15:20 +0000
      Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 15:23 +0000
        Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-26 16:12 +0000
          Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 09:34 -0700
          Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 09:37 -0700
          Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 20:09 +0000
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        Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 09:37 -0700
      Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 09:37 -0700
        Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 10:05 -0700
      Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 09:50 -0700
    Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 09:37 -0700
  Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 09:28 -0700
  Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-26 12:18 -0500
    Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 10:36 -0700
    Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 11:09 -0700
      Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 12:43 -0700
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      Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 13:55 -0700
    Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-26 20:47 +0000
      Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 14:00 -0700
        Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 14:48 -0700
          Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 15:02 -0700
            Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 15:22 -0700
              Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 16:07 -0700
              Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 16:33 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 17:27 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 17:33 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 17:44 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 18:29 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 22:22 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 17:58 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 20:04 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 18:45 -0700
          Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-26 22:52 +0000
            Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 16:23 -0700
            Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 16:31 -0700
              Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 16:40 -0700
            Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 16:38 -0700
              Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 17:10 -0700
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      Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-27 07:03 -0500
        Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-27 13:13 +0000
          Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-27 08:46 -0500
            Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-27 15:46 +0000
              Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 09:33 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-27 16:40 +0000
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                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-27 17:12 +0000
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                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 12:15 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 12:14 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-27 12:33 -0500
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 12:12 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 13:00 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 13:16 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 14:03 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-28 08:11 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-28 08:23 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-28 09:01 -0700
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                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 09:16 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 09:28 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 12:12 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 09:50 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-27 12:31 -0500
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 12:07 -0700
              Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-27 12:23 -0500
              Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 11:59 -0700
            Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 11:50 -0700
            Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 19:36 +0000
              Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-27 14:49 -0500
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 13:12 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 22:32 +0000
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 15:33 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-30 07:23 -0500
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 05:40 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-30 07:45 -0500
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-30 08:58 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 16:13 +0000
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-30 09:26 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2018-08-06 11:57 -0400
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        Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 19:35 +0000
          Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-27 14:47 -0500
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