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| From | vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> |
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| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy, alt.checkmate |
| Subject | Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. |
| Date | 2018-06-23 00:04 +0000 |
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On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 23:33:48 +0100, Mr On!on wrote: > vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote: > >> On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 21:31:42 +0100, Mr On!on wrote: >> >> > % <persent@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> you're welcome , glad i could help >> > >> > :) >> >> TEMPORAL LAW: THE SOLUTION TO ALL HEALTH, SEXUAL AND FINANCIAL PROBLEMS >> >> >> ALL modern evils stem from the failure to recognise and live by time >> law. >> Just as there are three entities in the Holy Trinity, there are three >> component colours in white light. This is because of TIME LAW. temporal >> law is encoded in the Bible. >> >> the Rosicrucians destroyed Wilhelm Reich because he knew too much. They >> altered the Bible to hide the secret of temporal law. Tesla knew too >> much about the principle of electro-volumetric equivalence; that is why >> the Knights Templar destroyed him. >> >> the universal temporal constant is 1.15324865958156919467. ONLY from >> this value can one derive the UNIVERSE'S MISSING DAY. >> >> End violence, disease, famine, etc. -- adopt cosmic matrix theory now! >> >> > Whoah, vallor! That's a lot to digest at one sitting; > please tell me more about TIME LAW, the Rosicrucians, the Knights > Templar and the UNIVERSE'S MISSING DAY. > > Also, are you absolutely certain that the universal temporal constant is > exactly 1.15324865958156919467? That's quite precise, almost unnaturally > so. > > With that reservation in mind: I am more than willing to embrace cosmic > matrix theory but I need rather more than mere unsupported assertions. > Having said that: the concept of TEMPORAL LAW is certainly beguiling... Snecking sci.physics for this example: _[/home/xxx/src/dada/dada-1.03/scripts]_(xxx@x)_ $ dada pomo.pb Nihilism, capitalist sublimation and the neocultural paradigm of expression Henry A. C. Prinn Department of Gender Politics, Massachusetts Institute of Technology 1. Dialectic libertarianism and cultural discourse "Narrativity is fundamentally used in the service of sexism," says Bataille. The subject is interpolated into a Sontagist camp that includes sexuality as a totality. Cultural discourse holds that class has objective value, but only if the premise of capitalist sublimation is valid; if that is not the case, expression is a product of communication. "Society is a legal fiction," says Foucault; however, according to Scuglia [1] , it is not so much society that is a legal fiction, but rather the futility, and some would say the paradigm, of society. But if the subdeconstructive paradigm of concensus holds, we have to choose between cultural discourse and Sontagist camp. The characteristic theme of the works of Tarantino is the dialectic, and some would say the absurdity, of precapitalist narrativity. In the works of Tarantino, a predominant concept is the concept of postdialectic consciousness. It could be said that Lyotard promotes the use of constructivist Marxism to challenge hierarchy. Marx promotes the use of capitalist sublimation to read sexual identity. Any number of deconstructions concerning cultural discourse may be revealed. Therefore, the subject is interpolated into a Sontagist camp that includes culture as a whole. However, Derrida uses the term 'capitalist sublimation' to denote the defining characteristic, and thus the dialectic, of subcultural sexual identity. Tilton [2] implies that we have to choose between Sontagist camp and cultural discourse. In a sense, in Reservoir Dogs, Tarantino analyses capitalist sublimation; in Clerks, however, Tarantino denies patriarchial subtextual theory. The postconceptualist paradigm of context suggests that the law is capable of deconstruction, given that the premise of Debordist image is invalid. Thus, an abundance of narratives concerning the common ground between society and art exist. The main theme of Wilson's [3] critique of Sontagist camp is the role of the participant as poet. It could be said that the subject is contextualised into a cultural discourse that includes truth as a reality. If capitalist sublimation holds, we have to choose between Sontagist camp and dialectic cultural theory. Several discourses concerning cultural discourse may be discovered. But Sartre suggests the use of capitalist sublimation to attack outmoded perceptions of language. 2. Tarantino and Sontagist camp The primary theme of Sargeant's [4] model of semiotic destructuralism is the meaninglessness, and subsequent genre, of precapitalist society. It could be said that Marx uses the term 'capitalist sublimation' to denote not, in fact, sublimation, but subsublimation. La Fournier [5] states that the works of Tarantino are an example of textual feminism. However, the example of cultural discourse intrinsic to Reservoir Dogs emerges again in Pulp Fiction, although in a more dialectic sense. Lyotard's analysis of Sontagist camp holds that expression must come from communication. The subject is interpolated into a cultural discourse that includes reality as a totality. Therefore, the main theme of Hamburger's [6] model of Sontagist camp is a self-referential reality. Any number of theories concerning the role of the writer as reader may be discovered. 3. Discourses of economy If one examines Sontagist camp, one is faced with a choice: either accept capitalist sublimation or conclude that the goal of the observer is significant form, but only if narrativity is interchangeable with art; otherwise, sexuality is responsible for capitalism. Thus, Drucker [7] suggests that we have to choose between the cultural paradigm of reality and cultural discourse. Marx uses the term 'material narrative' to denote the futility of precapitalist class. In the works of Spelling, a predominant concept is the distinction between opening and closing. Sontagist camp implies that sexual identity, surprisingly, has intrinsic meaning. In a sense, the characteristic theme of von Junz's [8] analysis of capitalist sublimation is the difference between society and society. "Culture is intrinsically elitist," says Foucault; however, according to Bailey [9] , it is not so much culture that is intrinsically elitist, but rather the stasis, and eventually the rubicon, of culture. It could be said that Baudrillard promotes the use of cultural neotextual theory to deconstruct sexism. The fatal flaw, and therefore the absurdity, of cultural discourse depicted in Beverly Hills 90210 emerges again in Models, Inc., although in a more mythopoetical sense. Therefore, many discourses concerning capitalist sublimation exist. If one examines Sontagist camp, one is faced with a choice: either accept cultural discourse or conclude that consciousness serves to reinforce class divisions, given that Sontag's essay on dialectic nihilism is valid. The subject is contextualised into a capitalist sublimation that includes culture as a paradox. The premise of cultural discourse implies that truth is capable of significance, but only if Sontagist camp is invalid; if that is not the case, Lacan's model of capitalist sublimation is one of "capitalist theory", and therefore part of the collapse of language. But in Melrose Place, Spelling deconstructs Sartreist absurdity; in Beverly Hills 90210 Spelling deconstructs Sontagist camp. If cultural discourse holds, we have to choose between capitalist sublimation and deconstructivist materialism. An abundance of desituationisms concerning the role of the poet as participant exist. However, the subject is interpolated into a Sontagist camp that includes sexuality as a whole. Derrida uses the term 'capitalist sublimation' to denote not narrative, but prenarrative. Thus, the characteristic theme of the works of Spelling is a patriarchial reality. Foucault suggests the use of cultural discourse to modify class. In a sense, if the posttextual paradigm of context holds, the works of Spelling are postmodern. Debord's critique of Sontagist camp holds that the task of the observer is social comment. Pickett [10] implies that we have to choose between capitalist sublimation and Sontagist camp. However, the subject is contextualised into a cultural discourse that includes reality as a totality. A number of discourses concerning the bridge between society and society may be found. Therefore, Finnis [11] states that we have to choose between capitalist libertarianism and capitalist sublimation. Lyotard uses the term 'capitalist sublimation' to denote a self-sufficient totality. ---- 1. Scuglia, L. D. Q. (1987) Discourses of Fatal flaw: Capitalist sublimation and Sontagist camp. Cambridge University Press 2. Tilton, I. J. ed. (1975) Capitalist sublimation and Sontagist camp. And/Or Press 3. Wilson, F. (1976) Sontagist camp and capitalist sublimation. And/Or Press 4. Sargeant, K. C. (1982) Forgetting Baudrillard: Capitalist sublimation and Sontagist camp. University of Georgia Press 5. la Fournier, A. ed. (1974) Capitalist sublimation in the works of Koons. Panic Button Books 6. Hamburger, B. W. T. ed. (1978) Capitalist sublimation in the works of Stone. O'Reilly & Associates 7. Drucker, S. Y. M. (1982) Reading Debord: Sontagist camp in the works of Spelling. Loompanics 8. von Junz, N. ed. (1970) Sontagist camp and capitalist sublimation. Yale University Press 9. Bailey, H. O. U. (1975) Capitalist sublimation, nihilism and the postmodernist paradigm of narrative. University of Illinois Press 10. Pickett, E. G. ed. (1983) Capitalist sublimation and Sontagist camp. Schlangekraft 11. Finnis, R. (1981) The Paradigm of Reality: Sontagist camp and capitalist sublimation. Cambridge University Press -- -v
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Does this sound familiar ? Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-19 04:48 -0700
Re: Does this sound familiar ? Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 09:19 -0500
Karl Marx lived it. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-19 08:08 -0700
Re: Karl Marx lived it. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 10:23 -0500
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Re: Marx lied. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-19 11:55 -0500
Re: Marx lied. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-19 17:06 -0400
Re: Marx lied. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-20 07:50 -0500
Re: Marx lied. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-21 03:11 +0000
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Everything decays, even gravity; hence the arrow of time. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-21 16:05 -0700
Re: Everything decays, even gravity; hence the arrow of time. onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2018-06-22 00:25 +0100
The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-21 22:34 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 22:46 -0700
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Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 12:39 -0700
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Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-23 03:22 -0700
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Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 05:41 -0700
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Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-25 06:17 +0000
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-25 01:10 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-25 08:21 +0000
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-25 01:43 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Steven Petruzzellis <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 11:48 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 03:34 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-23 05:38 -0700
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Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-23 05:08 -0700
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Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-24 22:27 +0000
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 15:31 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 15:31 -0700
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Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 17:17 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 17:24 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 17:30 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 18:42 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 19:22 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-25 01:01 +0000
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 18:07 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-25 01:34 +0000
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 19:09 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 19:22 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 19:21 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 20:31 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-25 00:58 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 18:43 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-06-24 20:30 -0400
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-06-25 08:11 +0100
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-22 20:59 -0400
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 18:02 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 13:34 -0700
Re: The first goal of ThermoDynamics. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 12:46 -0700
Re: Everything decays, even gravity; hence the arrow of time. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 16:26 -0700
Re: It's my fault. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-21 21:24 -0400
Re: It's my fault. Steven Petruzzellis <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 20:39 -0700
Re: It's my fault. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-21 21:23 -0400
Re: Marx lied. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-19 16:54 -0400
Re: Marx lied. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 16:04 -0500
Re: Marx lied. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-19 18:31 -0400
Re: Marx lied. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 19:13 -0500
Re: Marx lied. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-19 17:34 -0700
Re: Marx lied. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-19 18:55 -0700
Re: Marx lied. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-19 16:52 -0400
Marxism didn't work for Marx himself, nor anyone else. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-19 17:36 -0700
Re: Marxism didn't work for Marx himself, nor anyone else. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 20:07 -0500
Re: Marx lied. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-19 16:46 -0400
Re: Marx lied. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 16:03 -0500
SuperDeterminism is a better religion. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-19 18:14 -0700
Re: SuperDeterminism is a better religion. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-20 03:21 +0000
Does "Bell's Inequality" require perfect knowledge ? Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-19 23:35 -0700
Re: Does "Bell's Inequality" require perfect knowledge ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-20 12:17 -0400
Re: SuperDeterminism is a better religion. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-20 12:14 -0400
Re: SuperDeterminism is a better religion. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 04:04 -0700
Re: Marx lied. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-19 14:15 -0700
Re: Marx lied. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-19 18:17 -0400
Re: Marx lied. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-19 15:29 -0700
Re: Marx lied. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-19 15:43 -0700
Re: Marx lied. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-19 19:13 -0700
Re: Marx lied. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 11:00 -0500
Not one of Karl Marx's 8 kids did well. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-19 17:28 -0700
Re: Not one of Karl Marx's 8 kids did well. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 19:34 -0500
When sane, you prefer the LeastBad "option", not perfection. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-20 01:40 -0700
Re: Karl Marx lived it. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-19 11:58 -0400
Re: Karl Marx lived it. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-19 11:09 -0500
Re: Does this sound familiar ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-19 11:26 -0400
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