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On 4/28/18 4:51 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Saturday, April 28, 2018 at 5:05:08 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
>> On 4/28/18 3:59 PM, owl wrote:
>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>> On 4/28/18 2:59 PM, owl wrote:
>>>>>>>> I have used GPS on my phone but mostly for testing only. I simply do not
>>>>>>>> find I have much need, in part because I live in a small city but even
>>>>>>>> when I visit a larger city I tend to use printed maps. But that is MY
>>>>>>>> choice and I can see the appeal to a GPS. I do not get the attack
>>>>>>>> against people for making different choices than you (coming from F.
>>>>>>>> Russell, not you Carroll).
>>>>>>> In the woods you shouldn't rely on GPS, mainly because of interference,
>>>>>>> so I don't... but I enjoy being able to look at it to see my position. What
>>>>>>> happens to the guy who decided to go cross country, took a fall and broke
>>>>>>> his? Without map and compass he may have screwed himself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a relative who does Iron Man competitions and Triathlons and the
>>>>>> like... for longer races she uses hers extensively (as well as for
>>>>>> training). In a race down South she ended up getting lost in a place
>>>>>> where her GPS was not working and had to call 911 when it got dark (and
>>>>>> even then it took her an hour or so to find a place with service) --
>>>>>> alligators at night are NOT something you want to mess with. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>> Alligators?  Was she treading water at night waiting on her ride? >>>>
>>>> She was running and got lost. The trail was poorly marked but even she
>>>> openly talks about how it was her fault. Think she also had a lamp die.
>>>>
>>>
>>> So what do alligators have to do with this story?
>>>
>> Added danger and greater reason why you should know where you are.
> 
> So it added to the 'story'? ;)

Just found her post... do not have her permission to share images, but I 
can say that it was in December of 2016 (I did not think it was that 
long ago) and what was wrong with her GPS: it was a watch model and the 
battery died. She was basically going through a swamp, at dusk and 
later, in the rain, in Louisiana. She also slid down an embankment, 
which did not help, and she had pushed herself too hard so her body was 
not working as it should.

And, yes, you can see alligators there and, while rare, be attacked (and 
she did not even she one, no less get attacked by one):

<http://www.wlf.louisiana.gov/wildlife/nuisance-alligators>

She was born and raised in Vegas... and was scared of it.

> It's always the fault of the person who went unprepared for 'the things
> that can happen outdoors'. I've seen guys hiking who thought GPS was
> their cellphone... scratching their heads out of cell range, wondering
> how they got so far off track.
> 
> Here's a real story... no gators, just idiocy. Sitting at the edge of a lake,
> eating dinner, 2 lost guys once crawled into the box canyon housing
> Kibbie lake up in Northern CA. One of them asks me:
> 
> Is this Spotted Fawn?
> 
> Me: No, it's Kibbie.
> 
> 2nd lost guy: (with the expression of a person who just had his tongue
> jammed into a wall socket) Kibbie?! You're kidding?!
> 
> Me: No, that's Kibbie ridge.
> 
> 1st lost guy: Are you sure?!
> 
> Me: Dead sure, I've been coming here for years.
> 
> 1st guy: (probably in shock that his 'GPS' let him down, wearily asks)
> Do you know where Spotted Fawn Lake is from here?
> 
> Me: I do. You have a map? (by now my backpacking partner came over)
> 
> 1st guy: Not a paper one (my partner lets loose a tiny snicker)
> 
> Me: (now *totally* blown away as I pull out my map)
> It's almost 4 miles that way
> 
> (He then asks for a bearing, I highly suggest they take the trail.
> To my amazement 1st guy says he's gonna take the bearing)
> 
> 1st guy: OK, thanks, man...  we better get a move on
> (2nd guy is now looking sorta pissed but he follows)
> 
> Me: (a little louder 'cuz they wanted to 'get a move on') You have a compass?
> 
> 1st guy (voice trailing off but I caught the tail end) ... one on the phone.
> 
> (My partner is now laughing as he yells 'Good Luck')
> 
> If you knew that area and took into account they were starting off
> around 5:45 p.m. you'd know it was sheer idiocy to even try. This
> was back when the compasses on the phones were really lame
> (not that I'd trust a phone compass now). This was the worst, by
> far... but it's not an isolated incident. I've seen people split up
> over which way to go, it's not a pretty sight, which is why I never
> go anywhere unless I'm positive of who I'm hiking with.

I used to do some hiking but was never big into it... but my brother is. 
He *mostly* is smart about it. Mostly. :)

And I have heard stories which make yours sound very believable. :)


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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        Re: Interessant artikel "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-27 22:55 +0000
          Re: Interessant artikel Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2018-04-28 09:19 +0200
            Re: Interessant artikel a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-28 11:03 -0400
            Re: Interessant artikel "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-28 16:52 +0000
              Re: Interessant artikel Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-28 10:01 -0700
                Re: Interessant artikel "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-28 18:24 +0000
                Re: Interessant artikel Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-28 12:19 -0700
                Re: Interessant artikel Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 12:58 -0700
                Re: Interessant artikel Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-28 13:06 -0700
                Re: Interessant artikel Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 13:10 -0700
                Re: Interessant artikel owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 21:59 +0000
                Re: Interessant artikel Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 15:31 -0700
                Re: Interessant artikel owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 22:59 +0000
                Re: Interessant artikel Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 16:05 -0700
                Re: Interessant artikel owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 23:15 +0000
                Re: Interessant artikel Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-28 16:51 -0700
                Re: Interessant artikel Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 17:30 -0700
              Re: Interessant artikel Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 10:03 -0700
              Re: Interessant artikel Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2018-04-28 20:57 +0200
                Re: Interessant artikel "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-28 19:08 +0000
                Re: Interessant artikel a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-28 16:21 -0400
                Re: Interessant artikel Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-28 23:28 -0700
          Re: Interessant artikel a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-28 10:52 -0400
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