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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. |
| Date | 2018-04-23 06:43 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fk668pFiinrU2@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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On 4/23/18, 3:14 AM, -hh wrote:
> On Sunday, April 22, 2018 at 8:31:27 PM UTC-4, RonB wrote:
>> On 2018-04-21, owl<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>> -hh wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 1:30:21 PM UTC-4, a.m wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 20 Apr 2018 21:10:44 -0000 (UTC), RonB
>>>>> <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2018-04-18, chrisv<chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> Admit to your Photoshop lies, and I'll try not to "snip, unread" your
>>>>>>> posts so aggressively.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (Note that your response to this post will be snipped, unread,
>>>>>>> following the detection of any lies.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some undeniable lies that you used to attack decent, honest,
>>>>>>> reasonable FOSS advocates are below:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We claimed that "the same capabilities can be accomplished for free".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We claimed that it "is a waste".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We "globally reject it for all possible consumers".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have an "irrational hate" of it, which demonstrates an "unfortunate
>>>>>>> close-mindedness".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good grief, is high horse back on his Photoshop bandwagon? It's a niche
>>>>>> product. A whole OS shouldn't be judged on whether it will run a product
>>>>>> that only about 1% of the people need.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have yet to come across a graphical problem which couldn't be
>>>>> remedied by GIMP or a combination of GIMP and Paint.NET, both free.
>>>>
>>>> Except that any tool that can manipulate down to individual pixels results in
>>>> a "can be done", but that doesn't have bearing on just how slow& painful
>>>> or quick& efficient that process takes. As such, that's really where the
>>>> product differentiation resides for products such as iPhoto, Lightroom, Photoshop
>>>> & Elements, etc.
>>>>
>>>> Case in point, broadly describe your workflow for a composition where you have
>>>> a subject in the foreground that's properly exposed and a background that's +2EV
>>>> overexposed and you want to effectively balance the presentation by decreasing
>>>> the exposure of the background portion only, leaving the foreground unchanged.
>>>> Then discuss just how long it takes you to do this sort of task with this workflow.
>>>>
>>>> -hh
>>>
>>> darktable and a mask.
>>> https://pewtube.com/user/owl/ms9eRBE?autoplay=off
>
> Pretty much, although a mask in this context is pretty close to what Photoshop
> implements via layers...they go back to the paradigms of stacked acetates and
> similar 'tricks' of the darkroom.
>
>
>> My point being (for the purposely obtuse, take your bows high horse) is that
>> most people don't manipulate graphic files in complex ways and don't need
>> Photoshop.
>
> Unfortunately, the statements in the archives do not acknowledge any minority
> or niche accommodation, but are along the lines of "NO ONE EVER NEEDS THIS".
>
> As such, you're just trying to rewrite history.
>
>> This is mainly done professionally in print shops or photo studios....
>> If you're in the 1% who needs to do this and absolutely need to
>> manipulate Photoshop files ...
>
> Nope. Just take a look at the actual mechanics that are underneath the
> automatic ("magic button" adjustments in consumer software today - even
> the stuff on smartphones, such as on/off automatic HDR.
>
> Surprise, surprise! You've been one of those "1% Pros" for years without realizing it.
It is much like how Owl and others have repeatedly told me that PDF and
image annotations are rare things. Really? In the '80s they might have
been rare, but not now.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.
They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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[Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-18 06:43 -0500
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-19 07:09 -0500
Another Hero Worship Thread from the PWNED loser (was: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse.) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-19 07:54 -0700
[Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-19 10:45 -0500
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-19 08:49 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 21:12 +0000
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-04-20 21:10 +0000
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-20 14:18 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-21 13:30 -0400
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-21 11:21 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-21 19:47 +0000
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 13:09 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 00:51 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-21 21:37 +0000
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 21:59 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-04-23 00:31 +0000
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-22 18:02 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-23 08:58 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-23 09:06 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-23 10:02 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-23 11:11 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-23 11:26 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-23 14:11 -0500
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 19:33 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 22:13 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-23 03:14 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-23 04:31 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-23 06:43 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-23 14:15 +0000
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-23 07:46 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-23 14:51 +0000
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-23 08:34 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-23 09:03 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-23 09:20 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-23 09:40 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-23 16:42 +0000
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-23 09:46 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-23 16:39 +0000
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-23 09:45 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-23 17:53 +0000
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-23 11:48 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-23 19:27 +0000
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-23 12:48 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-23 19:32 -0500
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-23 16:44 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-23 13:10 -0500
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-23 17:19 +0000
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-23 10:56 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-23 11:06 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-23 11:45 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-04-23 18:32 +0000
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-23 14:49 -0500
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-23 11:52 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-23 12:06 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-23 12:19 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-04-23 18:59 +0000
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-04-23 19:00 +0000
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-23 19:12 -0500
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-04-23 23:17 +0000
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-23 16:43 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-23 21:09 -0500
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-04-24 01:11 +0000
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-23 18:51 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-23 16:17 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2018-04-24 10:53 +0100
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-24 02:57 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-24 08:17 -0500
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-24 07:32 -0500
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-24 12:44 +0000
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-04-23 12:45 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-23 12:51 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-23 12:53 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-23 19:49 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-23 22:00 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-24 08:46 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-24 09:09 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-24 09:43 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-24 10:05 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-24 10:54 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-24 11:34 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-24 15:10 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-23 21:23 +0000
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-23 20:13 +0000
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-04-23 20:15 +0000
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-23 20:32 +0000
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-23 13:44 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-23 15:42 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-04-23 22:45 +0000
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-23 11:50 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-24 07:18 -0500
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-24 18:00 -0500
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-24 23:41 +0000
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-25 11:33 -0500
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-25 07:14 -0500
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-04-23 07:37 -0400
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-04-23 05:53 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-23 06:44 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-24 08:37 -0500
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-24 08:54 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-24 09:13 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-24 11:44 -0500
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-24 11:39 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-24 14:03 -0500
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-24 14:05 -0500
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-24 18:03 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-24 18:32 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-25 07:05 -0500
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-25 05:29 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-23 03:19 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-23 12:24 +0000
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-23 06:34 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-23 14:48 +0000
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-23 06:42 -0700
Re: [Troll] Admit to your Photoshop lies, -highhorse. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 12:37 -0700
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