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Re: Ping Owl: Your preview PDF

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Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 8/28/15, 7:32 PM, in article afdmvnjd9a.a33@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> Was just looking at your video again: <https://vid.me/zgCa>. Your Preview as
>>> PDF option is really a lot like QuickLook, though slower and limited, I
>>> would assume, to documents (as opposed to videos, zip files, etc.).
>> 
>>> OS X has QuickLook. I show this in my video just to show how the details of
>>> the files: <https://youtu.be/QkCcg0TeDp4>
>> 
>>> Curious if your system has anything like that.
>> 
>> Don't know.  I'm sure there is a lightweight viewer available for
>> most file types.  I doubt there is a universal lightweight viewer.

> This is a built in feature of OS X... and it, too, has plugins. Developers
> can add the preview feature if they want (and many do). Not all files can be
> previewed, though... for example many video formats cannot be with Quick
> View.

>>> Also curious of your take on Peter's claim that the PDF tools you show are
>>> pretty much just like OS X's PDF Services even though they literally handle
>>> NONE of the use-cases I talked about for PDF Services (viewing a web page
>>> and wanting to save it as a PDF into a receipts or recipes or other common
>>> folder, working with a word processing document and wanting to email it to
>>> someone as a PDF - with or without a user-set name, etc.).
>> 
>> The pdf tools on linux can do all of that.

> I would love to see you view a webpage with your main browser and send it to
> your Recipes folder.

How does a menu option appear in a browser's menu tree if it was not coded
to have that option by the developer? 

>>> Not that these things cannot be done on Linux. They can. But your tools
>>> would not likely be a part of the workflow...
>> 
>> It's up to the developer.

> It is the norm on OS X. Only very rarely do you see an exception.

The fact that there are exceptions is proof that it is the developer's
decision to add it or not.

>>> you would more likely save
>>> print them as PDF to the folder you wanted or to the desktop (or wherever)
>>> and use them as an attachment.
>> 
>> How it works is up to the developer.

> It is a part of the common system print dialog.

A common print dialog could be coded to provide these PDF services on Linux.
(Aside from the print to pdf which is already ubiquitous).

>>> The ironic thing is on OS X your work would be more likely to be used in an
>>> alternate workflow - it is easier to get to the containing folder of a open
>>> document (as least as far as I know - open to being shown wrong). In that
>>> case someone might jump to the containing folder, convert it, then email it
>>> or whatever. 
>> 
>> The stuff I show in the most recent video could easily be integrated into
>> a GUI application's menu structure:
>> https://vid.me/H9m0

> By all means show it in, say, 5 GUI programs. I will show 5 similar programs
> with it on OS X. NO extra work from me. None. It already exists.

I'm not writing 5 GUI programs.  I'm not writing one.  The principle
I demonstrated in the CLI program pertains to any GUI program which
might be coded to take advantage of these tools.  If you think it does
not, then you need to explain why you think it does not.

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Ping Owl: Your preview PDF Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-28 18:05 -0700
  Re: Ping Owl: Your preview PDF owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-29 02:32 +0000
    Re: Ping Owl: Your preview PDF Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-28 19:44 -0700
      Re: Ping Owl: Your preview PDF owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-29 02:56 +0000
        Re: Ping Owl: Your preview PDF Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-28 20:54 -0700
          Re: Ping Owl: Your preview PDF owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-29 05:49 +0000
            Re: Ping Owl: Your preview PDF Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-28 23:21 -0700
              Re: Ping Owl: Your preview PDF Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-28 23:28 -0700
              Re: Ping Owl: Your preview PDF owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-29 09:35 +0000
                Re: Ping Owl: Your preview PDF Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-08-29 11:52 +0200
                Re: Ping Owl: Your preview PDF Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 12:09 -0700
                Re: Ping Owl: Your preview PDF GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-08-29 13:43 -0600
                Re: Ping Owl: Your preview PDF Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 13:08 -0700
                Re: Ping Owl: Your preview PDF Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 11:58 -0700
                Re: Ping Owl: Your preview PDF owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-29 19:24 +0000
                Re: Ping Owl: Your preview PDF Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 12:52 -0700
                Re: Ping Owl: Your preview PDF owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-29 20:02 +0000
                Re: Ping Owl: Your preview PDF vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-29 20:33 +0000
                Re: Ping Owl: Your preview PDF Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 13:56 -0700
                Re: Ping Owl: Your preview PDF owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-29 22:04 +0000
                Re: Ping Owl: Your preview PDF Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 15:22 -0700
                Re: Ping Owl: Your preview PDF owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-29 23:10 +0000
                Re: Ping Owl: Your preview PDF vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-29 23:23 +0000

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