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Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak

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On 2025-03-22 3:48 p.m., RonB wrote:
> On 2025-03-22, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> On 2025-03-21 11:01 p.m., RonB wrote:
>>> On 2025-03-21, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>> On 2025-03-21 1:20 p.m., RonB wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-03-21, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2025-03-20 10:57 p.m., pothead wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2025-03-20, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 09:31:45 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If anyone out there is a fan of Snaps, then there is a chance they might
>>>>>>>>> not be fans of Ubuntu itself. The idea of switching out the GNU tools
>>>>>>>>> that work perfectly well in favour of rewritten Rust ones is just
>>>>>>>>> idiotic. I would trust the people who produced the GNU tools decades ago
>>>>>>>>> a lot more than the filthy hippies who will rewrite them in Rust for a
>>>>>>>>> theoretical benefit in regards to memory.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've been running Ubuntu as my main machine. I'm not a fan of GNOME but I
>>>>>>>> can live with it.  I can also like with snap, flatpak, and AppImage.
>>>>>>>> Brave is the only app that shows up both in the snap and flatpak list.
>>>>>>>> There isn't a lot of consistency. Firefox and dotnet are snaps, Vim is a
>>>>>>>> flatpak.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've been running MXLinux for a long time, years in fact, but I tried out
>>>>>>> the latest version of LinuxMint Cinnamon  and on the same hardware it is
>>>>>>> much, much faster than MXLinux.
>>>>>>> Especially with regards to loading browsers and surfing.
>>>>>>> It was painfully slow under MXLinux. Browser didn't matter.
>>>>>>> It's not even close.
>>>>>>> I wasn't a fan of LinuxMint in the past but I sure am now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's come a long way baby!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm a fan now. It made the pathetic the old hardware feel relatively
>>>>>> new. Its 5250U processor wasn't even good at the time, but it at least
>>>>>> feels adequate eight years later.
>>>>>
>>>>> The 5250U is faster than the 5300U that's in my Dell Latitude E7450 laptop.
>>>>> But they're pretty closely related. I'm happy with the performance of the
>>>>> E7450 (I do have 16 GBs of RAM, so that might help.)
>>>>
>>>> The Mac's got 8GB with no possibility of upgrading it. I can replace the
>>>> 128GB it came with, I even have the adapter for it, but Mint doesn't
>>>> even fill up the 128GB. At 25% wear, I think I can run it for a number
>>>> of years before needing to switch the storage.
>>>
>>> The MacBook Air that I haven't yet sold (2015 version) is also stuck at 8
>>> GBs. I can't remember what CPU it uses (it looks like a 5250U like yours) by
>>> the specs I find online. It's also at 128 GBs.
>>
>> Tell yourself that if you were a Mac user, you would have no choice but
>> to bury that thing next to the family dog because it is officially
>> useless. Of course, with something like Linux Mint, it is still good in
>> 2025.
>>
>> On the other hand, I know that some Mac users that are still rocking
>> their 2012 machines.
> 
> The MacBook Air definitely slowed down when I upgraded from Catalina to
> Monterey. (If I had realized how quickly Monterey was going to be EOL'd I
> wouldn't have bothered.) So I tried a Live USB version of Linux Mint
> Cinnamon 22.1 last night (after figuring out I needed to use the Option key
> at boot instead of Command+R). Worked well. If the keyboard wasn't so funky
> I would probably just install Linux Mint and keep it. Maybe I will anyhow, I
> don't know. I do admit that the build on the Apple MacBooks is pretty nice.
> (Although I really got it just to test a few Apple-only applications.)
> 
> Even though the WiFi card is Broadcom, Linux Mint has no trouble installing
> a good driver for it — speed was impressive. At least on par with my
> Latitude E7450 (which is pretty good for the MacBook Air since it has half
> the RAM — I don't leave a lot open at once anyhow).

Installing Linux Mint on the MacBook Air was trouble free whereas doing 
the same with Ubuntu required me to download the proprietary drivers 
through a Bluetooth connection to my phone. For that reason alone, Mint 
gets my vote. The fact that it is so much faster only adds to that.

I have to admit I'm not a fan of its keyboard either. It got good 
reviews, but I find it fairly mushy.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
John 14:6

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Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-18 12:33 -0400
  Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-18 16:58 +0000
    Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-18 13:01 -0400
      Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-03-19 05:02 +0000
    Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-03-19 05:00 +0000
      Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-19 09:31 -0400
        Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-20 01:21 +0000
          Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 05:39 +0000
          Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-20 08:07 -0400
          Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-21 02:57 +0000
            Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-21 05:50 -0400
              Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 17:20 +0000
                Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-21 14:41 -0400
                Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 03:01 +0000
                Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-22 08:27 -0400
                Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 19:48 +0000
                Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-22 21:07 -0400
                Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 07:06 +0000
                Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-23 07:17 -0400
                Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 19:15 +0000
                Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-03-23 19:17 +0000
                Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 20:47 +0000
            Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 17:15 +0000
              Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-21 14:40 -0400
        Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 05:37 +0000
  Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-03-19 04:58 +0000
    Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-19 09:21 -0400
      Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-20 01:12 +0000
        Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 05:35 +0000
          Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-20 18:28 +0000
        Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-20 08:03 -0400
          Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-20 18:18 +0000
            Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-20 19:52 -0400
              Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-21 00:06 +0000
                Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-20 20:24 -0400
      Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 05:34 +0000
        Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-20 08:11 -0400
          Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-20 18:31 +0000
            Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-20 19:53 -0400
          Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 02:30 +0000
            Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-21 05:49 -0400

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