Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox

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Date	2015-08-30 05:35 -0700
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Subject	Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox
From	jaymoseley@hotmail.com

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John wrote...
> The wheel travels one circumference in the same time that the axle travels the same.

I think the argument was that the rim travels the same distance in the same time in one
revolution but at variable speeds.
Whats odd is:  Both the original author of the thread and respondents like Tom ( baez) 
Roberts seem to suggest that even in non relativistic models its not possible for 
a rim to travel faster than c even when the axle is, at or near c. 
What hilites their stupidity is they waffle on about how these so called relativistic effects
actually are *observed*. Whereas in fact the only observed data on this ( like fizeau)
show that in fact relativistic effects are not manifested in any observations.
One has to artificially alter the data with mathematical transformations to
support the delusional assumptions made by relativity. Hence Roberts idiotic calculation
in an earlier post where he clearly reduces the observed speed of the rim by mathematically
dividing the observed speed by an imagined amount to make sure that it magically never
reaches c. I hope that the american university that hosts his and Baez misinformation , cuts 
them from their budget.

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The Wheels/Track Paradox Margarita Cibulkova <margac@terraspace.au> - 2015-08-28 12:47 +0000
  Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox Margarita Cibulkova <margac@terraspace.au> - 2015-08-28 12:51 +0000
    Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox Reginald Ehrett <chasi@competence.org> - 2015-08-30 15:58 +0000
      Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox Reginald Ehrett <chasi@competence.org> - 2015-08-30 16:00 +0000
        Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox Reginald Ehrett <chasi@competence.org> - 2015-08-30 17:22 +0000
          Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox Reginald Ehrett <chasi@competence.org> - 2015-08-30 17:35 +0000
            Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox Reginald Ehrett <chasi@competence.org> - 2015-08-30 19:27 +0000
  Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-08-28 12:30 -0700
    Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox Margarita Cibulkova <margac@terraspace.au> - 2015-08-28 19:55 +0000
      Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox Reginald Ehrett <chasi@competence.org> - 2015-08-30 09:53 +0000
        Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 15:43 -0500
  Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 16:30 -0500
    Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox Margarita Cibulkova <margac@terraspace.au> - 2015-08-29 10:15 +0000
      Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox pcardinale@volcanomail.com - 2015-08-29 06:33 -0700
        Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 07:59 -0700
          Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-31 08:43 -0500
            Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-31 10:32 -0400
              Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox Reginald Ehrett <chasi@competence.org> - 2015-08-31 18:43 +0000
                Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-31 14:58 -0400
      Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 12:18 -0500
        Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox Reginald Ehrett <chasi@competence.org> - 2015-08-30 17:24 +0000
          Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-30 13:56 -0500
            Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox Reginald Ehrett <chasi@competence.org> - 2015-08-30 19:20 +0000
              Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-31 12:36 -0700
                Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox Reginald Ehrett <chasi@competence.org> - 2015-08-31 19:56 +0000
                Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-08-31 13:29 -0700
  Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox xxein1@att.net - 2015-08-28 15:29 -0700
    Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox Margarita Cibulkova <margac@terraspace.au> - 2015-08-29 10:34 +0000
    Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox Margarita Cibulkova <margac@terraspace.au> - 2015-08-29 10:38 +0000
  Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-28 20:22 -0500
    Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox Margarita Cibulkova <margac@terraspace.au> - 2015-08-29 10:08 +0000
      Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-08-29 11:23 +0000
        Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox Margarita Cibulkova <margac@terraspace.au> - 2015-08-29 11:50 +0000
          Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox "Photon Beam" <none@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 08:03 -0700
      Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-29 13:51 -0500
        Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox Margarita Cibulkova <margac@terraspace.au> - 2015-08-29 19:27 +0000
          Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 12:55 -0700
          Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-08-29 13:05 -0700
            Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox Margarita Cibulkova <margac@terraspace.au> - 2015-08-29 20:18 +0000
        Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2015-08-29 18:18 -0700
    Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2015-08-29 11:49 -0700
  Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 12:39 -0700
    Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 16:20 -0400
      Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 14:38 -0700
        Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 21:13 -0700
        Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2015-08-30 05:35 -0700
          Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 08:36 -0700
  Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-08-30 14:44 +1000
    Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox Reginald Ehrett <chasi@competence.org> - 2015-08-30 10:21 +0000
    Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2015-09-01 02:45 -0700
  Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox Reginald Ehrett <chasi@competence.org> - 2015-08-30 10:04 +0000
  Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox Reginald Ehrett <chasi@competence.org> - 2015-08-30 13:34 +0000
    Re: The Wheels/Track Paradox Reginald Ehrett <chasi@competence.org> - 2015-08-30 15:35 +0000

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