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Re: Tidal Forces - revisited, still unanswered

From Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics
Subject Re: Tidal Forces - revisited, still unanswered
Date 2017-08-30 10:18 +1000
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On 30/08/2017 2:36 AM, Bídníkùm Laterá wrote:
> Sylvia Else wrote:
> 
>>> You seemingly don't know how a Math Proof looks like. Hint: it has to
>>> have Mathematical Beauty. Until then, we have no choice, but to
>>> believe. Start with that big GR "field tensor equation", then go down
>>> in small steps along the road.
>>
>> Physics is not about proof. No physical theory can ever be proved.
> 
> You misunderstand the entire procedure. It is not about that. But your
> postulate according to which Relativity can handle Tidal Force. You can't
> pull things out of your ass. Show it mathematically, symbolically to begin
> with.
> 

What do you want? The force of gravity is inversely proportional to the 
square of the distance. If you have two objects of the same mass in a 
gravitational field, one at distance R + r and one at distance R - r, 
then one experiences a force of k/(R + r)^2 and the other experiences a 
force of k/(R - r)^ 2, where k is a constant of proportionality and R is 
the distance from the source of the field.

If the two objects are attached so that they cannot accelerate at 
different rates, then they experience a force between them of

k[1/(R + r)^2 - 1/(R - r)^2)] [*]

which is the tidal force.

Sylvia.

[*] This is a difference of two squares, and can be simplified.

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Tidal Forces - revisited, still unanswered Bídníkùm Laterá <bila@wehia.ui> - 2017-08-27 09:34 +0000
  Re: Tidal Forces - revisited, still unanswered Bídníkùm Laterá <bila@wehia.ui> - 2017-08-27 09:44 +0000
    Re: Tidal Forces - revisited, still unanswered Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-08-27 22:09 +1000
      Re: Tidal Forces - revisited, still unanswered Bídníkùm Laterá <bila@wehia.ui> - 2017-08-27 15:20 +0000
        Re: Tidal Forces - revisited, still unanswered Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-08-28 14:38 +1000
          Re: Tidal Forces - revisited, still unanswered Bídníkùm Laterá <bila@wehia.ui> - 2017-08-28 19:04 +0000
            Re: Tidal Forces - revisited, still unanswered Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-08-29 14:46 +1000
              Re: Tidal Forces - revisited, still unanswered Bídníkùm Laterá <bila@wehia.ui> - 2017-08-29 09:28 +0000
                Re: Tidal Forces - revisited, still unanswered Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-08-29 22:07 +1000
                Re: Tidal Forces - revisited, still unanswered Bídníkùm Laterá <bila@wehia.ui> - 2017-08-29 16:36 +0000
                Re: Tidal Forces - revisited, still unanswered Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-08-30 10:18 +1000
                Re: Tidal Forces - revisited, still unanswered Bídníkùm Laterá <bila@wehia.ui> - 2017-08-31 06:17 +0000
                Re: Tidal Forces - revisited, still unanswered Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-08-31 17:10 +1000
                Re: Tidal Forces - revisited, still unanswered Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-08-31 02:11 -0500
  Re: Tidal Forces - revisited, still unanswered JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 15:12 -0700
    Re: Tidal Forces - revisited, still unanswered Bídníkùm Laterá <bila@wehia.ui> - 2017-08-31 06:15 +0000
      Re: Tidal Forces - revisited, still unanswered JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-31 00:45 -0700
        Re: Tidal Forces - revisited, still unanswered Bídníkùm Laterá <bila@wehia.ui> - 2017-08-31 08:29 +0000
          Re: Tidal Forces - revisited, still unanswered JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-09-01 12:29 -0700
            Re: Tidal Forces - revisited, still unanswered Bídníkùm Laterá <bila@wehia.ui> - 2017-09-02 11:37 +0000
              Re: Tidal Forces - revisited, still unanswered Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-09-03 11:21 +1000
                Re: Tidal Forces - revisited, still unanswered Bídníkùm Laterá <bila@wehia.ui> - 2017-09-03 10:58 +0000
              Re: Tidal Forces - revisited, still unanswered JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-09-02 22:08 -0700
                Re: Tidal Forces - revisited, still unanswered Bídníkùm Laterá <bila@wehia.ui> - 2017-09-03 10:58 +0000
                Re: Tidal Forces - revisited, still unanswered JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-09-04 05:16 -0700
                Re: Tidal Forces - revisited, still unanswered Ethel Ocallaghan <unlgclo@awlwaac.ag> - 2017-09-04 22:47 +0000
                Re: Tidal Forces - revisited, still unanswered Ethel Ocallaghan <unlgclo@awlwaac.ag> - 2017-09-03 22:12 +0000
                Re: Tidal Forces - revisited, still unanswered JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-09-04 05:18 -0700
                Re: Tidal Forces - revisited, still unanswered mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-09-04 05:54 -0700
                Re: Tidal Forces - revisited, still unanswered Ethel Ocallaghan <unlgclo@awlwaac.ag> - 2017-09-05 12:19 +0000

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