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Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV

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On 25/08/17 07:16, bit-naughty@hotmail.com wrote:
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> Umm *bro*, if one should call you that, it's the "appending it INSIDE" part that confuzzles me:

Yes, it's confusing if you don't understand this kind of markup.
Doubly confusing because the designer who chose that phrase also didn't
understand this kind of markup — you are correct, one does not "append"
inside an element, one "inserts". One "appends" to a list; if there is
nothing to append to, it makes no sense touse the word "append".

But we're stuck with it, I'm afraid.

Moral of the story if that designers of languages need to read the spec
and understand the structure and syntax of the data they are planning to
deal with.

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> I find that very confusing - you're calling something INSIDE div2 ,
> instead of div2 being an *argument*!! I would have thought that if
> you want something inside "div", you tell it 1) what you want, and 2)
> inside what, i.e. BOTH of them would be arguments. ...Me not the OOP
> fanatic, remember....? THAT's the main reason for all the
> questions.....

That's part of the flawed syntax of Javascript, unfortunately.
Essentially, you are right:

1. position yourself (your memory pointer, location, whatever you call
it) INSIDE the element you want to insert into, in the desired location
with respect to any existing subelements that may exist;

2. perform an INSERT instruction

> Why did they do it this way (if, indeed, they have), out of
> curiosity?

You can see why the designer believed that this should be called
"append", because s/he never considered the case[s] where you might want
to insert an element inside another, at a location BEFORE any existing
subelements; or BETWEEN two existing subelements. S/he only considered
the case of adding to the end of the existing subelements, and ignored
the case where the containing element was actually empty.

Basically, if you don't understand this kind of nested markup, you
shouldn't be designing a language that deals with it.

In dealing with SGML/HTML/XML you need to think like a tree, not like a
chainsaw.

///Peter
-- 
XML FAQ: http://xml.silmaril.ie/

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Inserting a DIV inside another DIV bit-naughty@hotmail.com - 2017-08-22 21:47 -0700
  Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-08-23 12:08 +0200
    Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV bit-naughty@hotmail.com - 2017-08-23 23:19 -0700
      Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-08-24 08:58 +0200
        Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-08-24 08:55 +0100
        Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV bit-naughty@hotmail.com - 2017-08-24 23:16 -0700
          Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV tony@mountifield.org (Tony Mountifield) - 2017-08-25 09:04 +0000
            Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2017-08-25 15:54 +0100
            Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV bit-naughty@hotmail.com - 2017-08-27 23:43 -0700
              Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2017-08-28 11:04 +0100
              Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2017-08-28 04:02 -0700
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2017-08-28 06:24 -0700
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2017-08-28 07:42 -0700
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2017-08-29 06:45 -0700
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2017-08-28 15:13 +0100
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2017-08-28 07:30 -0700
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2017-08-29 10:11 +0100
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2017-08-29 07:00 -0700
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2017-08-30 18:24 +0100
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2017-08-29 06:57 -0700
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2017-08-29 06:51 -0700
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV bit-naughty@hotmail.com - 2017-09-02 11:18 -0700
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2017-09-11 19:57 -0300
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2017-09-12 05:30 -0700
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-09-12 14:37 +0200
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2017-09-12 06:15 -0700
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-09-12 15:44 +0200
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-09-12 14:51 +0100
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-09-12 16:38 +0200
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-09-12 20:20 +0100
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-09-13 18:47 +0200
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-13 01:20 -0300
          Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-08-25 14:33 +0200
          Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV Peter Flynn <peter@silmaril.ie> - 2017-08-26 21:21 +0100
            Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-27 03:16 +0200
              Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV Peter Flynn <peter@silmaril.ie> - 2017-08-27 11:40 +0100
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2017-08-27 04:05 -0700
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-27 16:15 +0200
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-27 16:27 +0200
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-08-27 15:42 +0100
            Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2017-08-27 14:10 +0100
              Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-08-27 15:40 +0200
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2017-08-28 10:50 +0100
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-08-28 22:35 +0200
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-08-28 22:53 +0100
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-08-29 00:27 +0200
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2017-08-29 10:16 +0100
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-08-29 23:05 +0200
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-08-29 22:51 +0100
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-08-30 00:29 +0200
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2017-08-30 16:33 +0100
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2017-08-29 09:57 +0100
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-08-29 18:05 +0200
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2017-08-30 16:33 +0100
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-08-30 21:43 +0200
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2017-08-31 10:08 +0100
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-08-31 16:40 +0200
                Re: Inserting a DIV inside another DIV John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2017-08-31 18:37 +0100

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