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Re: The Nonexistent Postulates of Einstein's General Relativity

Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Date 2017-08-09 09:31 -0700
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Subject Re: The Nonexistent Postulates of Einstein's General Relativity
From JanPB <filmart@gmail.com>

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On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 5:12:40 AM UTC-7, Pentcho Valev wrote:
> "The second part of relativity is the theory of general relativity and lies on two empirical findings that he elevated to the status of basic postulates. The first postulate is the relativity principle: local physics is governed by the theory of special relativity. The second postulate is the equivalence principle: there is no way for an observer to distinguish locally between gravity and acceleration."  http://abyss.uoregon.edu/~js/21st_century_science/lectures/lec07.html
> 
> A blatant lie of course. Einstein's general relativity was not deduced from postulates. It is a not-even-wrong empirical concoction - a malleable combination of ad hoc equations and fudge factors allowing Einsteinians to predict anything they want. 

No, this is false. We've been through this (and literally everything you keep repeating here)
several times already. People actually did a lot of "meta"-type studies of GR and the
amount of what you call "fudging" has been investigated in detail. Feynman wrote about
it, some of it is discussed in MTW's "Gravitation".

The actual truth is that GR is defined FAPP uniquely by the requirements you stated
at the top. There is some wiggle room but it's minimal.

You just make this stuff up as you go along in order to "discredit" a theory and the man
you hate. Your posts have nothing to do with science, it's all about an obsession and
a monomania.

--
Jan

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The Nonexistent Postulates of Einstein's General Relativity Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-09 05:12 -0700
  Re: The Nonexistent Postulates of Einstein's General Relativity Winfred Tucker <cnt@iiefeer.dc> - 2017-08-09 15:30 +0000
  Re: The Nonexistent Postulates of Einstein's General Relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 09:31 -0700
    Re: The Nonexistent Postulates of Einstein's General Relativity Winfred Tucker <cnt@iiefeer.dc> - 2017-08-09 22:02 +0000
      Re: The Nonexistent Postulates of Einstein's General Relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 15:30 -0700
        Re: The Nonexistent Postulates of Einstein's General Relativity Winfred Tucker <cnt@iiefeer.dc> - 2017-08-09 23:14 +0000
          Re: The Nonexistent Postulates of Einstein's General Relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 16:32 -0700
  Re: The Nonexistent Postulates of Einstein's General Relativity Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-09 23:54 -0700
    Re: The Nonexistent Postulates of Einstein's General Relativity Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-10 13:59 -0700
      Re: The Nonexistent Postulates of Einstein's General Relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 14:31 -0700
        Re: The Nonexistent Postulates of Einstein's General Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-10 23:29 -0700
          Re: The Nonexistent Postulates of Einstein's General Relativity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2017-08-11 00:04 -0700
            Re: The Nonexistent Postulates of Einstein's General Relativity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-08-11 00:26 -0700

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