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Re: Running out of ideas: stability, bootstrap

From Gerhard Hoffmann <ghf@hoffmann-hochfrequenz.de>
Newsgroups sci.electronics.design
Subject Re: Running out of ideas: stability, bootstrap
Date 2017-05-28 22:09 +0200
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Am 28.05.2017 um 18:46 schrieb John Larkin:

> 
> Over what frequency range is the Zin negative?

The network analyzer starts officially at 300 KHz,
non-guaranteed at 150KHz. At 150 KHz Zin is already
negative. It seems, at about 10 MHz everything is
running out of steam, so it stops being offensive.

Every impedance inside the circle that goes through 0
has a positive real part. Everything on the circle
through 0 has zero Ohms, only LC.
Everything outside of that circle has a negative
real part.
The Smith diagram is in the same photo album.

There are no complaints by LTspice.
In a very old version of Genesys, I get about the same
behavior regarding Zin. But I could not make the
bias loop converge, so setting the operating point
is clumsy.


> Where does GATE_BIAS come from?

That comes from an integrator. I have added that
part of the circuit. Since the 30uF input capacitance
* 66Meg bias resistor takes an eternity to settle,
I have added a window comparator & analog switch to
reduce the bias resistor by paralleling 4Meg7.
That works.

> 
> How is this physically assembled?

It is all on a small dual-sided circuit board.
Pic included. It does no longer look that tidy.  :-)

< https://www.flickr.com/photos/137684711@N07/albums/72157682404684680 >

and the pics left/right of it.

cheers,

Gerhard


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Running out of ideas: stability, bootstrap Gerhard Hoffmann <ghf@hoffmann-hochfrequenz.de> - 2017-05-28 17:11 +0200
  Re: Running out of ideas: stability, bootstrap bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-28 12:09 -0400
    Re: Running out of ideas: stability, bootstrap Gerhard Hoffmann <ghf@hoffmann-hochfrequenz.de> - 2017-05-28 23:01 +0200
      Re: Running out of ideas: stability, bootstrap Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-28 14:30 -0700
        Re: Running out of ideas: stability, bootstrap Gerhard Hoffmann <ghf@hoffmann-hochfrequenz.de> - 2017-05-28 23:56 +0200
          Re: Running out of ideas: stability, bootstrap Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-05-28 15:08 -0700
  Re: Running out of ideas: stability, bootstrap John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-05-28 09:46 -0700
    Re: Running out of ideas: stability, bootstrap Gerhard Hoffmann <ghf@hoffmann-hochfrequenz.de> - 2017-05-28 22:09 +0200
      Re: Running out of ideas: stability, bootstrap Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-05-29 07:13 -0700
        Re: Running out of ideas: stability, bootstrap dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com - 2017-05-29 20:56 -0700
          Re: Running out of ideas: stability, bootstrap Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2017-05-30 03:55 -0700
            Re: Running out of ideas: stability, bootstrap Gerhard Hoffmann <ghf@hoffmann-hochfrequenz.de> - 2017-05-30 15:53 +0200
              Re: Running out of ideas: stability, bootstrap dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com - 2017-05-30 10:42 -0700
  Re: Running out of ideas: stability, bootstrap bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-29 08:38 -0400
    Re: Running out of ideas: stability, bootstrap bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-29 08:40 -0400
    Re: Running out of ideas: stability, bootstrap Gerhard Hoffmann <ghf@hoffmann-hochfrequenz.de> - 2017-05-30 16:51 +0200
  Re: Running out of ideas: stability, bootstrap Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2017-05-29 07:36 -0700
    Re: Running out of ideas: stability, bootstrap bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-29 11:20 -0400
      Re: Running out of ideas: stability, bootstrap Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-29 15:36 +0000
        Re: Running out of ideas: stability, bootstrap bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-29 11:44 -0400
          Re: Running out of ideas: stability, bootstrap bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-05-29 11:53 -0400
          Re: Running out of ideas: stability, bootstrap Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-29 17:01 +0000
        Re: Running out of ideas: stability, bootstrap Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2017-05-29 08:46 -0700
          Re: Running out of ideas: stability, bootstrap Jan Panteltje <pNa0nStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-29 16:56 +0000
      Re: Running out of ideas: stability, bootstrap dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com - 2017-05-29 21:12 -0700

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