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Re: Slightly OT: Wine fridge temperature hysteresis?

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On 2017-03-06 11:41, Dave Platt wrote:
> In article <ei3ik9Fs8otU1@mid.individual.net>,
> Joerg  <news@analogconsultants.com> wrote:
>
>> Not really. The two sensors at the walls take easily an hour to change
>> by 1F and the large liquid bodies (5 gallons of 18 liters each) follow
>> that with some lag. A 5F hysteresis makes the fermenter contents meander
>> by 2-3F. That's ok but I wonder why they chose such a large hysteresis.
>
> What's the typical cycle-on-and-off period, in your installation, with
> the existing 5-degree hysteresis?
>

Can't say for cooling because it is too cold right now. So heat only. 
With the 21W heater that I made each cycle is more than 20 hours. In 
part because it has a hard time to crank out the last degree.


> I suspect that trying for a tighter hysteresis might have required the
> compressor to cycle on and off rather frequently.  This can be
> destructive - refrigerator and airco systems need some "idle time"
> after shutting off, for the pressure in the loop to equalize.  The
> compressor usually has a timer on it, to prevent attempts at a rapid
> restart.
>
> Keeping the hysteresis tighter, while still maintaining a safe cycle
> period for the compressor, might have required better insulation
> (which is bulky and/or costly).
>

When I test ran it in the garage, setting it to 45F, the cycle times 
were hours so that doesn't seem to be the problem. Right now I can't 
test cooling anymore because I've got four beer fermenters in it and if 
I'd cool the fermentation would stall.

Considering that it has a >13A compressor all this seems overkill.

-- 
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

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Slightly OT: Wine fridge temperature hysteresis? Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-03-05 11:31 -0800
  Re: Slightly OT: Wine fridge temperature hysteresis? Adrian Jansen <adrian@qq.vv.net> - 2017-03-06 07:46 +1000
    Re: Slightly OT: Wine fridge temperature hysteresis? Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-03-05 14:43 -0800
      Re: Slightly OT: Wine fridge temperature hysteresis? Adrian Jansen <adrian@qq.vv.net> - 2017-03-06 11:23 +1000
        Re: Slightly OT: Wine fridge temperature hysteresis? Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-03-06 07:48 -0800
      Re: Slightly OT: Wine fridge temperature hysteresis? dplatt@coop.radagast.org (Dave Platt) - 2017-03-06 11:41 -0800
        Re: Slightly OT: Wine fridge temperature hysteresis? Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-03-06 12:04 -0800
  Re: Slightly OT: Wine fridge temperature hysteresis? Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-03-05 14:52 -0800
    Re: Slightly OT: Wine fridge temperature hysteresis? Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-03-05 15:43 -0800
      Re: Slightly OT: Wine fridge temperature hysteresis? Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-03-05 16:15 -0800
        Re: Slightly OT: Wine fridge temperature hysteresis? Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-03-06 07:49 -0800
      Re: Slightly OT: Wine fridge temperature hysteresis? "dcaster@krl.org" <dcaster@krl.org> - 2017-03-05 17:10 -0800
        Re: Slightly OT: Wine fridge temperature hysteresis? amdx <nojunk@knology.net> - 2017-03-06 06:14 -0600
          Re: Slightly OT: Wine fridge temperature hysteresis? makolber@yahoo.com - 2017-03-06 07:18 -0800
          Re: Slightly OT: Wine fridge temperature hysteresis? Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-03-06 07:53 -0800
    Re: Slightly OT: Wine fridge temperature hysteresis? jurb6006@gmail.com - 2017-03-05 16:26 -0800
      Re: Slightly OT: Wine fridge temperature hysteresis? Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-03-05 16:42 -0800
        Re: Slightly OT: Wine fridge temperature hysteresis? jurb6006@gmail.com - 2017-03-05 20:41 -0800
  Re: Slightly OT: Wine fridge temperature hysteresis? Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-03-05 17:53 -0700
    Re: Slightly OT: Wine fridge temperature hysteresis? Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-03-06 08:02 -0800
      Re: Slightly OT: Wine fridge temperature hysteresis? Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-03-06 10:19 -0800
  Re: Slightly OT: Wine fridge temperature hysteresis? Mike Perkins <spam@spam.com> - 2017-03-06 02:12 +0000
    Re: Slightly OT: Wine fridge temperature hysteresis? Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-03-06 08:06 -0800
      Re: Slightly OT: Wine fridge temperature hysteresis? Mike Perkins <spam@spam.com> - 2017-03-07 00:56 +0000
        Re: Slightly OT: Wine fridge temperature hysteresis? Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-03-07 07:32 -0800
          Re: Slightly OT: Wine fridge temperature hysteresis? makolber@yahoo.com - 2017-03-07 10:57 -0800
            Re: Slightly OT: Wine fridge temperature hysteresis? makolber@yahoo.com - 2017-03-07 10:59 -0800
              Re: Slightly OT: Wine fridge temperature hysteresis? Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-03-07 11:19 -0800

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