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Re: [OT] LLM-generated content in articles

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Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote or quoted:
>2) Consider not claiming copyright on LLM-generated posts.

  I also do not claim copyright for what I just quoted from you above.
  I hope people can deduce that I do not claim copyright for material I
  marked as quoted, because that header line cannot carry all details.

  I might own the copyright for a machine-generated output if I had put
  an extraordinary effort in refining my prompt across many trials and
  errors to finally get the desired output. However, if I just put in
  a trivial question like, "What's the news?", I have no copyright in
  the output.

  This was the judicial part. In reality it's rarely that binary.
  When posting a chatbot's answer, I do put in some effort:

  - reading and understanding the OP

  - deciding that this might be a good candidate for an AI prompt
    based on my experience of which prompts worked and which did 
    not work well in the past

  - deciding on which chatbot might be suited best for this question

  - judging the output and possibly refining and repeating my prompt
    until I'm satisfied, sometimes doing additional research for 
    writing the prompt

  - judging the output again and deciding whether it could possibly
    help the Usenet thread advance, so deciding whether to post it
    or throw it away

  - running my custom script to convert the Markdown from the chatbot
    to the formatting I prefer for my chatbot quotations in Usenet

  - trimming the text, removing redundant or irrelevant parts

  - Sometimes, I manually edit or reformat parts of the text with more
    or less effort.

  FWIW, here's a part of an answer in Markdown as I get it
  from the chatbot, and then the same part as I get it from
  my script with no manual edit.

  The original Markdown:

## The Legal Status of Chatbot Replies

* Public Domain: Anyone can copy, share, or reuse a raw chatbot reply without asking for permission. [5, 6] 
* No Corporate Ownership: The company that built the chatbot (like OpenAI or Google) does not own the copyright to the output either. They usually disclaim ownership in their Terms of Service and assign any potential rights to you, but they cannot grant a legal copyright that does not exist under the law. [7, 8, 9] 
* The Monkey Analogy: This follows the famous "Monkey Selfie" legal precedent. If a non-human (an animal or a machine) takes a photo or writes a text, the law states it cannot hold a copyright. [10, 11, 12, 13] 

  The unedited output of my script (even the "| " was inserted by
  my script):

| The Legal Status of Chatbot Replies
| 
| Public Domain   Anyone can copy, share, or reuse a raw chatbot reply
| without asking for permission.
| 
| No Corporate Ownership   The company that built the chatbot (like
| OpenAI or Google) does not own the copyright to the output either.
| They usually disclaim ownership in their Terms of Service and assign
| any potential rights to you, but they cannot grant a legal copyright
| that does not exist under the law.
| 
| The Monkey Analogy   This follows the famous "Monkey Selfie" legal
| precedent. If a non-human (an animal or a machine) takes a photo or
| writes a text, the law states it cannot hold a copyright.

  .

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