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Re: Facetime on Android

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nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <edcvbjFslbhU2@mid.individual.net>, Frank Slootweg
> <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
> 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > apple was planning on making it open source but got sued and was
> > > > > > > > > forced to not do that.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >   But Apple could still keep it closed source and port it to other
> > > > > > platforms, but apparently 'chose' not do do so.
> > > > > 
> > > > > because there's no benefit to bother, even if the resources to do so
> > > > > were zero (which they aren't).
> > > > 
> > > >   I'm sure that in your walled garden universe there isn't, but we can
> > > > hope that Apple is actually just a tad smarter than you, cant we!?
> > > 
> > > the only walls are those *you* put up.
> > 
> >   Nope, *Apple* put up those walls, or better, did not pull them down.
> 
> the only walls are the ones of your own making.
> 
> people who actually use apple products aren't limited by these mythical
> walls. 

  Good luck using FaceTime accross the wall which you claim doesn't
exist!

  Care to tell us how you're going to use FaceTime to communicate with
other platforms like Android, Windows, etc?

> > > >   BTW, can you please go and create your own walled garden version of
> > > > Usenet? It would be ever so much better for all concerned! After all,
> > > > who needs fscking standards [1] if you can make closed proprietary
> > > > stuff?
> > > 
> > > facetime is only closed due to losing a patent troll lawsuit. apple
> > > *wanted* it to be open source.
> > 
> >   Non sequitur! As mentioned/quoted above, it doesn't have to be open
> > source to be ported (by Apple):
> 
> there is no benefit for apple to port it themselves to competing
> platforms.

  And then why do other companies *do* port their stuff to 'competing
platforms'? Exactly, because *they* don't believe in a walled garden
approach.

> however, there is a benefit for it to be an open standard, which is
> what they wanted to do. unfortunately, apple was sued and those plans
> changed.

  For the umpteenth time, I'm *not* talking about open source. Get over
it!

> > [Rewind:]
> > 
> > > > > >   But Apple could still keep it closed source and port it to other
> > > > > > platforms, but apparently 'chose' not do do so.
> > 
> > > your issue is not with apple, but the scumbag patent trolls in east
> > > texas and the corrupt judges there who consistently find in favour of
> > > said trolls. that's why nearly every patent troll lawsuit is filed
> > > there, no matter who the target of the lawsuit happens to be.
> > 
> >   It's not 'my' issue, but *the* issue, and it *is* with Apple.
> 
> nope. the issue is with patent trolls.

  No, it isn't, as I explain in this part which -as usual - you dodged:
> 
> >   *If* what you imply is true - which it clearly is not - Apple would
> > have to withdraw the iOS/OS X versions as well. Since they don't,
> > there's nothing which prevents them to *porting* it to other platforms.
> 
> apple had to *change* facetime in response to the lawsuit so that it no
> longer infringed.

  Duh! So, *after* that, they were free to port it, which they didn't,
which is *their* decision, nobody else's. So the issue *is* with Apple
and no amount of stamping your tiny feet is going to change that.

> as usual, you have no clue.

  Well at least *I* know the difference between open and closed source
and who can port what.

> >   So please keep your baseless FUD to yourself.
> 
> i don't spread baseless fud at all. 

  That's the terryfying/pathetic bit, that you don't even *realize* that
it's FUD.

> you, on the other hand, lie and twist just to argue.

  Ah, there we have your usual PKB, which you utter when you know you've
cornered yourself.

  QED. HTH. HAND, EOD. NL.

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                Re: Facetime on Android nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-07 13:06 -0500
                Re: Facetime on Android Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-07 19:54 +0000
                Re: Facetime on Android nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-07 15:11 -0500
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