Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK

From	Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	uk.telecom.mobile
Subject	Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK
Date	2016-12-26 16:04 +0000
Organization	Association of Revolting Peasants
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On 26/12/2016 15:32, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
> On Monday, 26 December 2016 14:07:09 UTC, Woody  wrote:
>> "R. Mark Clayton"<notyalckram@gmail.com>  wrote in message
>> news:0b43f568-7e78-4085-a20d-700da8c69842@googlegroups.com...
>>> On Saturday, 24 December 2016 12:36:55 UTC, Woody  wrote:
>>>> "R. Mark Clayton"<notyalckram@gmail.com>  wrote in message
>>>> news:b48e9223-f6c8-4436-935a-fe4f920e9a51@googlegroups.com...
>>>>> On Friday, 23 December 2016 22:10:58 UTC, Roger Mills  wrote:
>>>>>> On 23/12/2016 20:08, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
>>>>> SNIP
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Easy - '3' SIM are 3G only and the second slot it 2G only.
>>>>>>> '3'
>>>>>>> SIM will roam onto 2G in extremis, but if you put one in a 2G
>>>>>>> phone [or in this case 2G slot] then '3' will cut you off.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So are you saying that there *isn't* a solution?
>>>>>
>>>>> Use a second SIM on a different network, but see below.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why did it work in Australia? Would the '3' SIM have been
>>>>>> roaming
>>>>>> on 2G
>>>>>> there?
>>>>>
>>>>> '3' are happy for you to roam when abroad - they cream you for
>>>>> high
>>>>> roaming charges and pay relatively modest roaming charges.  In
>>>>> the
>>>>> UK they have to pay the other network for access and receive
>>>>> little
>>>>> (3p/min on 321 P&G) or no revenue (contract).
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> [snip]
>>>>
>>>> That doesn't make sense Mark.
>>>>
>>>> Australia comes under th 'Feel at Home' banner so you won't be
>>>> paying
>>>> roaming charges.
>>>
>>> I wasn't specifically referring to Australia, but AFAIK 3 don't have
>>> their own network in Oz, so you would have to roam, in which case
>>> what sort of network it is does not matter.
>>
>> If you look at
>> http://www.three.co.uk/Discover/Phones/Feel_At_Home
>> you will see that the land of Oz is included.
>>
>
> That's not the point - you will be roaming on another SP's network.
>
> And before you go do check the tariff - at £1.40p per minute (£84 per hour) to call a 'local' Oz number, you are most definitely getting creamed for calls within Oz.  This is more than it cost to direct dial Australia from the UK forty years ago!  Now it costs me 1.5p to a landline and 18p to a mobile + VAT.
>
>

Yes indeed. That's why I used a local SIM for calls within Australia and 
only used 'feel at home' for calls back to the UK.
-- 
Cheers,
Roger
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Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 17:22 +0000
  Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK "R. Mark Clayton" <notyalckram@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 12:08 -0800
    Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 22:12 +0000
      Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Tim+ <tim.downie@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 22:19 +0000
        Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2016-12-23 22:40 +0000
      Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK "R. Mark Clayton" <notyalckram@gmail.com> - 2016-12-24 02:50 -0800
        Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK "Woody" <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2016-12-24 12:37 +0000
          Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK "R. Mark Clayton" <notyalckram@gmail.com> - 2016-12-26 03:41 -0800
            Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK "Woody" <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2016-12-26 14:07 +0000
              Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2016-12-26 14:29 +0000
              Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK "R. Mark Clayton" <notyalckram@gmail.com> - 2016-12-26 07:32 -0800
                Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2016-12-26 16:04 +0000
        Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2016-12-24 16:12 +0000
          Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2016-12-24 21:48 +0000
  Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK retsuhcs@xinap.moc (Mike S.) - 2017-01-03 21:18 +0000
    Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2017-01-03 22:14 +0000
      Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Pete Forman <petef4+usenet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-03 23:20 +0000
        Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 10:39 +0000
          Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Pete Forman <petef4+usenet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 22:45 +0000
    Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 08:30 +0100
      Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-05 01:45 -0500
        Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 08:07 +0100
        Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 23:12 -0800
          Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-06 00:01 -0500
            Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 23:21 -0800
              Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK "Woody" <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2017-01-06 09:02 +0000
                Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Someone Somewhere <nntpac@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 09:11 +0000
                Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK "Woody" <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2017-01-06 13:48 +0000
                Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 09:06 -0800
                Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 17:38 +0000
                Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-06 12:57 -0500
                Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-06 19:25 -0500
                Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 18:20 -0800
              Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-06 08:58 -0500
                Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-06 19:35 -0500
                Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-06 20:51 -0500
                Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2017-01-07 14:38 +0000
                Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Chronos <usenet@chronos.org.uk> - 2017-01-07 17:11 +0000
                Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-07 13:21 -0500
                Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2017-01-07 19:30 +0000
                Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2017-01-08 00:24 -0500
                Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 11:46 +0000
                Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> - 2017-01-08 12:01 +0000
                Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 11:50 -0800
                Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> - 2017-01-08 20:05 +0000
                Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 17:09 -0800
                Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2017-01-09 11:07 -0500
                Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 17:34 +0000
                Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2017-01-09 14:10 -0500
                Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 09:45 -0800
                Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 08:05 +0000
                Re: Dual SIM problem with Moto G (2nd generation) in UK Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-01-07 20:13 +0000
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