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Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness

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On 10/11/2016 7:15 pm, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 11/10/2016 10:36 AM, Bob Henson wrote:
>> On 10/11/2016 5:56 pm, The Real Bev wrote:
>>> On 11/10/2016 08:32 AM, Bob Henson wrote:
>>>> On 10/11/2016 3:44 pm, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>>> Moto G #2, android 6.0
>>>>>
>>>>> Yesterday I needed to make a phone call (a rare occurrence).  When I
>>>>> chose the number from my contacts list, hangouts insisted on attempting
>>>>> to make a wifi call.  I have no data plan and had no accessible wifi.  I
>>>>> tried several times, but was unable to use the actual PHONE to make the
>>>>> call.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can stop or uninstall hangouts and/or the hangouts dialer, but not
>>>>> merely disable it.  There seems to be no way to tell the phone to
>>>>> actually USE THE GODDAM PHONE.
>>>>>
>>>>> What am I missing?
>>>>
>>>> Maybe you have Hangouts set as default dialler? I'm not sure if you can
>>>> do that - but try going to settings > apps > Hangouts and see if it has
>>>> any defaults set. If it has, clear them and try again.
>>>
>>> It said I had some but wouldn't tell me what they were.  I certainly
>>> wouldn't have deliberately done that.  Bastards. I cleared them, which
>>> seemed to allow me to use the 'phone' part.  I wonder if I'll have to do
>>> this process again if I choose to use the hangouts dialer again...
>>> Probably :-(
>>
>> Not unless you let it. If you use Hangouts and want to dial someone it
>> will (I'm guessing as I don't use Hangouts  - but it's normally what
>> happens) ask you which app you want it to dial with and if you want to
>> use it once or every time.
> 
> The Motorola dialer just dials.  No choice.  The hangouts dialer 
> likewise.  Maybe I should get a different 'phone' dialer...
> 
> Tell it once, and it won't set a default. It
>> could also happen from elsewhere - if you tell it to dial a contact from
>> within your contacts file and it asks your which app to use don't tell
>> it to use Hangouts, tell it to use the normal dialler and to use it
>> every time. It's certainly something along those lines, anyway.
> 
> Separate 'dial' icons on the home screen/list of apps.
> 
>>> I really hate the way google insists on controlling everything.  I want
>>> different accounts for different purposes, but it really WANTS me to do
>>> everything with one account and I have to go to a lot of trouble to NOT
>>> do that.
>>
>> I run several different accounts on my tablet - some from my own domains
>> and not with Google at all - without difficulty. I do stick to one
>> account on the phone, purely so if anyone wants to e-mail me whilst I'm
>> out and about they know which one to use. If you have multiple Google
>> accounts you can have them all together in one log-in and just select
>> which one you want to use - there's an "add another account" facility
>> which lets you select which one to use each time you log in to Google -
>> maybe that's the way to go?
>>
>>> I know, how much did I pay for it blablablabla...
>>>
>>
>> I'm not impressed by that argument - free or paid for, it should still
>> be configurable to do what you want - not what they want. If often
>> doesn't work that way though and, like you, I find it quite irritating
>> to be lectured by someone along those lines :-)
> 
> Nearly annoying is being harangued because I normally run as root. 
> Screw the whiners --  it's MY machine, I'm behind a firewall, and I've 
> been doing it since 1994 with no problems so far except those caused by 
> the haranguers.
> 
> I might be willing to try Ubuntu (I'm always happy to let somebody else 
> do the work) but I'm not going to spend my life doing sudos or alias 
> every command I use because I do a LOT of stuff in xterms.  Yeah, I 
> know, there are workarounds, but GODDAMMIT I don't want to deal with 
> nannies!
> 
> Plus having to do a shitpot of installation and copying, of course.  Did 
> I mention the laziness factor?
> 

The lazy way to Linux is Linux Mint in one of it's forms (I like the
Mate front end and the Debian version rather than the Ubuntu version -
but only because my old laptop is so ancient and Debian is more suited
to it). It's theoretically possible to run a system from the GUI
without as much as a sudo - but that seems to annoy the purists who
think if it isn't excruciatingly difficult it isn't real Linux. They'd
have been proud of me as a realtive newbie this week though - I've being
installing Realtek drivers for an "ac" external WiFi device from scratch
to try to connect to a 5MHz signal. It connects but won't talk to the
internet much - so I guess my old lappy can't take it. However, this is
a long way from mobile.android.

Regards,

Bob


-- 
Bob
Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England

The penalty for bigamy is two Mothers-in-Law.

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Google hangouts dialer nastiness The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 07:44 -0800
  Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2016-11-10 16:15 +0000
    Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 09:27 -0800
      Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-10 19:49 +0100
      Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2016-11-10 19:04 +0000
      Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-11-11 18:09 +0000
  Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness Bob Henson <rh547477@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 16:32 +0000
    Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 09:56 -0800
      Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness Bob Henson <rh547477@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 18:36 +0000
        Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 11:15 -0800
          Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness Bob Henson <rh547477@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 19:36 +0000
            Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 13:52 -0800
              Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-10 18:34 -0500
                Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-11-11 14:38 +0100
                Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-11 10:41 -0500
              Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-11-12 04:11 -0500
                Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-12 08:24 -0500
                Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-11-12 23:43 -0500
                Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-13 00:26 -0500
                Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-11-14 02:47 -0500
        Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> - 2016-11-11 14:35 +0000
          Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-11-11 07:58 -0800
            Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-11 11:44 -0500
            Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-11-11 10:18 -0800
            Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> - 2016-11-14 14:21 +0000
  Re: Google hangouts dialer nastiness VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-11-10 18:36 -0600

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