Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package

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Date	2017-01-12 06:27 -0800
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Subject	Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package
From	Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com>

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> > So it is a group of peoples working together when they have a customer?
> > For being a worldwide industry leader (even for small community), this
> > looks insufficient, isn't it?
> 
> We have a core staff and add contractors when necessary. It has worked 
> well for us.

I'm very glad to see this. Any successe supports the idea Forth is effective language. Another question - if Forth Inc. can use Forth, which part of their methodology is universal? I'm afraid it is based mainly on the fact they already have forthers. If you want to write a standard to involve more programmers, it needs to be focused on the new users, maybe with strong programming experience, not on complete newbies who are ready to accept any rules.
 
> Yes, companies have had various motivations for using Forth in projects, 
> but the primary one has been that they can get the work done far quicker 
> and less expensively. We typically give quotes (time and cost) about 1/4 
> that of competing bids. Sometimes management is too unfamiliar with 

I can see this in our projects too. However, you need to highlight features, leading to this effect, not just list current set of words.

> > This is not an absolute argument, just a marker, so 'five more point'
> > means nothing, but when most ratings goes down, this is a reason to think deeply.
> 
> I don't actually know of any external ratings that are believable.

So most forthers who claims themselves as a researchers are in danger. It is easy to think they are experts without any counterarguments (or with agressive discarding any critics). There is no way to find an absolute proven solution, but auxiliary markers may be applied. Number of publications, their impact factor, total grants income, conference statistics are markers of this kind. Of course, if no innatural actions are made for demonstrating better results.

Also, if research activity is based on the Forth, overall process becomes too close and self-driving, up to the kind of technical cult.
 
> Each project has its own goals and tradeoffs, including the Standards 
> body, whose goals and standards are articulated in the standards. 
> Forth94 and Forth2012, describe it this way: "The purpose of this 
> Standard is to promote the portability of Forth programs for use on a 
> wide variety of computing systems, to facilitate the communication of 
> programs, programming techniques, and ideas among Forth programmers, and 
> to serve as a basis for the future evolution of the Forth language."
 
Looks too neutral. How we can test any action to conforming these statements? By voting in workgroup? This means programmer must propose new feature and wait for the next committee meeting, maybe with personal relations involved. This is boring. It is easier to write a completely new Forth system than wait for proposal acceptance.

Also, without actual overview, no adequate decision can be made. in fact, any committee must not _decide_, but only _fix_ situation, revealing by proposals (in ideal case). Committee members not rule, but only describe and summarize. So, if the world will go, for example, to 256-bit CPUs, committee must fix this and propose a way to support 256-bit systems, not meets to decide, it is conforming to Forth phylosophy or not. If you think I'm wrong, just show me a statistics by Forth systems, programmers, project, articles, income etc. Is there any major growing point, indicating committee activity results? Again, I don't mean internal mutual approvements, just worldwide results, showing many independent programmers are agreed and ready to use Standard.
 
> If you have different priorities and interests, which is perfectly 
> reasonable, then it is not helpful to sit on the side and complain. 
> People who complain should be prepared to help.

I'm ready, why not? But what is your expectations - should I write a letter with 2-3 new words, which I want to see? This is not a most critical point to fix.

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"Hello world" using Hughs novice package awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2016-12-21 01:19 +0100
  Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-12-24 05:40 -0600
    Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-12-24 06:01 -0800
    Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2016-12-25 19:27 +0100
      Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-12-26 18:16 -0800
        Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2016-12-27 14:27 +0100
          Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2016-12-27 14:29 +0100
        Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2016-12-27 14:27 +0100
          Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-12-28 11:35 +1100
            Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-27 17:38 -0800
              Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-12-29 10:11 +1100
              Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-12-29 17:06 -0800
            Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2016-12-28 05:39 +0100
              Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-12-27 22:37 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package crc <charles.childers@gmail.com> - 2016-12-28 05:40 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-12-28 23:03 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2016-12-30 20:54 +0100
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Coos Haak <htrofhc@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 20:17 +0100
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package mhx@iae.nl - 2017-01-02 12:22 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-02 22:08 +0100
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-02 21:40 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-03 13:51 +0100
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-03 21:51 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-06 19:36 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-07 14:55 +0100
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-07 19:01 +0100
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2017-01-08 12:06 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-08 16:46 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package "Robert L." <No_spamming@noWhere_7073.org> - 2017-01-03 15:59 +0000
              Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-12-27 23:12 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2016-12-30 20:54 +0100
            Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-12-28 04:57 -0600
            Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-12-28 11:23 +0000
              Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-12-28 23:16 -0800
              Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-12-30 16:31 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package "David N. Williams" <williams@umich.edu> - 2016-12-30 15:21 -0500
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2017-01-05 12:00 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-05 13:30 +0100
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-05 17:32 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-06 02:50 +0100
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-05 18:20 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-06 17:58 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-07 14:55 +0100
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-05 16:15 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2017-01-10 08:43 +0000
            Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-12-30 14:37 +0000
              Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package john <anon@example.com> - 2016-12-30 15:57 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-12-30 17:19 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2016-12-30 21:10 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-12-30 12:44 -1000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-12-30 15:43 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2016-12-31 00:09 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-03 17:25 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package john <anon@example.com> - 2016-12-30 22:47 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-12-31 03:31 -0600
              Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-12-30 15:46 +0000
              Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-12-30 15:05 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2016-12-31 00:26 +0000
              Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-12-31 11:49 +1100
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-12-30 15:21 -1000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-01-02 11:11 +1100
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-02 00:28 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-01 17:45 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-01-01 20:57 -1000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 06:55 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-02 10:44 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 07:01 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-02 15:46 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package john <anon@example.com> - 2017-01-02 16:54 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 10:23 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 10:06 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-02 19:13 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 14:08 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package mhx@iae.nl - 2017-01-02 14:46 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-02 17:10 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-01-02 21:58 -1000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-03 15:54 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2017-01-04 06:21 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-04 11:19 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-04 22:34 +0100
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 14:44 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2017-01-04 15:13 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 08:18 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-04 23:17 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-05 04:15 -0600
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package mhx@iae.nl - 2017-01-08 01:18 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-08 15:52 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-01-08 21:00 -1000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 15:58 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-09 17:39 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-01-09 18:53 -1000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 06:27 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-01-12 13:44 -1000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 17:36 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-13 03:17 -0600
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-13 14:44 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-13 14:43 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-14 00:23 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-14 11:52 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-14 16:00 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-14 11:51 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-14 15:06 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-15 14:54 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-15 13:33 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 16:06 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-14 00:25 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 18:00 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-13 22:17 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 16:04 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-01-13 15:08 -1000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-13 17:21 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-14 11:26 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-13 18:21 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-13 18:30 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-13 22:20 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-14 10:43 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-14 15:47 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-14 17:30 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-14 18:16 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-15 13:53 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-15 14:09 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-15 15:48 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-15 16:00 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-15 12:48 +0100
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-14 10:10 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-15 17:56 -0600
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-15 17:05 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-15 17:35 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-15 19:20 -0800
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                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-19 09:47 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-19 02:44 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-19 06:16 -0600
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-19 07:43 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-19 11:07 -0600
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-19 14:58 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-20 03:48 -0600
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-20 06:54 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-20 09:11 -0600
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-20 07:30 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-20 12:12 -0600
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                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-21 03:24 -0600
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                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-22 14:41 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-22 15:57 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-23 04:05 -0600
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                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-01-24 01:02 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-24 01:12 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-23 16:28 -0800
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                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-24 03:22 -0600
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-24 14:19 +0100
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-24 03:13 -0600
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-24 08:08 -0500
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-24 14:23 +0100
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-24 09:10 -0500
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-24 15:35 +0000
                Persitent memory (was Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package) Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-24 14:19 -0500
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                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-24 14:49 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-25 03:26 -0600
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-26 04:27 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-26 08:35 -0600
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-21 14:19 +0100
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-22 12:55 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-19 15:28 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-19 14:44 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-01-19 20:30 -0500
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-20 18:21 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-20 03:52 -0600
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-20 06:58 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-20 12:57 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-20 16:31 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-20 17:31 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-19 08:48 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-19 17:18 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package alex@rivadpm.com - 2017-01-19 11:01 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-19 14:51 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-19 13:07 +0100
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-19 14:26 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-16 09:03 -0600
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-01-15 15:08 -1000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-15 17:23 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-01-15 22:18 -0500
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-16 09:08 -0600
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-18 06:56 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-14 09:31 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-15 17:33 -0600
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-10 09:55 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-09 04:05 -0600
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-09 16:00 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-10 04:13 -0600
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-12 06:40 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-02 21:07 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-03 04:46 -0600
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-03 16:11 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-04 04:27 -0600
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 14:26 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-04 23:09 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-05 00:02 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 02:19 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 05:56 -0500
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 06:33 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-05 16:56 +0100
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-05 19:03 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-01-06 06:45 -0500
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-05 04:27 -0600
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-05 06:22 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-01-05 09:10 -0600
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-04 23:05 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-03 22:05 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-01-04 13:44 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-01-01 20:53 -1000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-01 19:55 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-01 21:13 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package foxaudioresearch@gmail.com - 2017-01-02 07:14 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-01-02 07:42 -1000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-01-03 02:00 +0100
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-01-03 00:13 -0500
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-01-02 22:02 -1000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-03 11:19 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-03 21:37 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-02 21:55 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-03 11:26 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-02 10:47 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-02 20:57 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-12-30 18:35 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2016-12-31 04:29 +0100
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2016-12-31 10:19 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-02 17:08 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-01-06 13:39 +1100
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-05 19:13 -0800
          Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-12-27 23:57 -0800
            Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2016-12-30 20:54 +0100
        Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-12-29 19:05 -0800
          Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-12-29 19:38 -0800
          Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-12-30 15:24 +1100
          Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-12-30 16:01 +0000
            Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-12-30 14:33 -0800
        Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-12-29 16:04 -0800
          Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-12-30 12:42 +1100
          Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-12-30 07:24 +0000
            Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-12-30 12:50 -0800
              Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2016-12-30 21:43 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-12-30 14:38 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2016-12-31 10:31 +0000
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-12-31 07:04 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-12-31 07:07 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-12-31 07:46 -0800
                Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-12-31 08:28 -0800
        Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2016-12-30 16:53 +0100
        Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-06 20:49 -0800
          Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-01-06 23:28 -0600
            Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-06 22:22 -0800
          Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-07 14:55 +0100
            Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-01-07 21:20 +0000
              Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2017-01-07 22:57 +0100
            Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-01-08 17:02 +0000
              Re: "Hello world" using Hughs novice package hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-01-08 16:55 -0800

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