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Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG

From Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.os.linux
Subject Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG
Date 2016-09-27 15:58 -0700
Message-ID <e50bshFgjkeU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References (7 earlier) <nsefjp$a1p$11@news.albasani.net> <e4vv3dFdig5U1@mid.individual.net> <407rbd-q3a.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> <87mvit6l2k.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> <kb9rbd-dob.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>

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Carlos E.R. wrote:
> Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>> "Carlos E.R." writes:
>>>  Mike Easter wrote:
>>>> Melzzzzz wrote:
>>>>> Mike Easter wrote:
>>>>>> The article suggests:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sudo rngd -r /dev/urandom
>>>>>>
>>>>> What's wrong with /dev/random ?
>>>>>
>>>> If you are asking me why the article recommended urandom
>>>> instead of random, I don't know the answer (yet) and he didn't
>>>> say.
>>>
>>> If there is not enough entropy "/dev/random" waits till there
>>> is. On the other hand, "/dev/urandom" doesn't wait. The man page
>>> says: [...]
>>
>> You should read the link Mike posted more carefuly.
>
> I don't see a contradiction.
>
  o what you cited is indeed what it/man says
  o what is controversial is how to interpret what it says
  o I don't really think 'what's wrong with dev/random?' is 'wrong'
  o I ALSO don't really think that the article's strong affirmative 
statement in its 'myth busting' should be quite as affirmative as presented

// Fact: /dev/urandom is the preferred source of cryptographic 
randomness on UNIX-like systems. //

... because the article also later says:

// The man page does recommend the use of /dev/random in some cases (it 
doesn't hurt, in my opinion, but is not strictly necessary), //

Soooo, now he says, it (random) doesn't hurt but isn't strictly 
necessary.  Quite different from the emphatic urandom preferred 
insistence statement in the opening par.


-- 
Mike Easter

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Marek Novotny GnuPG Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-09-26 00:00 +0000
  Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-09-25 17:32 -0700
    Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-09-26 01:04 +0000
    Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG The Letter Q <babbaquimby@teachers.org> - 2016-09-26 11:12 -0400
  Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-26 03:56 +0200
  Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2016-09-26 10:53 +0000
    Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-09-26 05:10 -0700
      Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-09-26 05:22 -0700
        Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-09-26 05:45 -0700
          Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-09-26 10:10 -0700
            Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-09-26 10:54 -0700
          Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-09-27 11:27 -0700
            Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-09-27 18:40 +0000
            Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-09-27 18:41 +0000
              Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-09-27 12:06 -0700
              Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-09-28 10:14 -0700
                Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-09-28 10:38 -0700
            Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-09-27 11:44 -0700
              Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2016-09-27 19:00 +0000
                Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-09-27 12:20 -0700
                Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-28 00:04 +0200
                Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-27 23:21 +0100
                Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-09-27 15:35 -0700
                Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-28 00:44 +0200
                Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-09-27 15:58 -0700
            Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2016-09-27 19:24 -0400
              Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-09-28 01:06 -0700
                Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2016-09-28 10:38 +0000
                Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-09-28 11:21 -0700
            Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2016-09-28 10:31 +0000
              Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2016-09-28 11:24 +0000
                Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-28 16:08 +0200
                Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2016-09-28 19:55 +0000
                Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-09-28 13:11 -0700
                Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2016-09-28 22:04 +0000
                Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-09-28 16:11 -0700
        Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2016-09-26 13:27 +0000
          Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-09-26 06:59 -0700
      Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2016-09-26 13:25 +0000
    Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-26 15:26 +0200
      Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2016-09-26 13:33 +0000
        Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-26 15:40 +0200
          Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2016-09-26 13:48 +0000
      Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-26 14:39 +0100
        Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-26 07:00 -0700
          Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-09-26 07:26 -0700
            Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-09-26 14:53 +0000
            Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2016-09-26 14:59 +0000
              Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2016-09-26 15:01 +0000
            Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-26 07:34 -0700
              Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-09-26 18:24 +0200
                Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-26 09:30 -0700
        Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-26 16:31 +0200
          Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-26 15:59 +0100
            Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-26 19:45 +0200
              Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-09-26 14:29 -0700
                Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-09-26 14:37 -0700
                Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-09-26 15:17 -0700
                Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2016-09-26 23:27 +0000
        Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-09-26 15:00 -0700
          Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-09-26 15:34 -0700
            Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-27 15:58 +0200
              Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-09-27 07:11 -0700
    Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-09-26 14:14 +0000
      Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2016-09-26 14:57 +0000
        Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-09-26 15:09 +0000
          Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-09-26 15:14 +0000
          Re: Marek Novotny GnuPG Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2016-09-26 15:18 +0000

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