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Re: Battery usage

From Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: Battery usage
Date 2016-08-14 15:28 +0000
Organization NOYB
Message-ID <e1bh10Fhd10U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References (6 earlier) <VA.00000bb6.054603fb@me.invalid> <e16graFbousU1@mid.individual.net> <VA.00000bb8.0a284387@me.invalid> <e1994cF18qhU1@mid.individual.net> <VA.00000bba.0f6e5efc@me.invalid>

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Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> wrote:
> In article <e1994cF18qhU1@mid.individual.net>, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > But - as has been mentioned - nowadays 'airplane mode' with WiFi on
> > is an allowed combination on many flights.
> 
> Yes, I got that ...
> 
> > In this scenario, turning off the airplane icon would only confuse
> > Joe User ("I'm on an airplane, but I don't see the icon! Am I
> > violating the rules?").
> 
> .. but when Mr.User travels on a flight on which WiFi is NOT permitted 
> he is as likely to be tricked into believing that he is obeying the 
> rules because the aeroplane icon is still visible even though he has 
> turned his WiFi back on, in violation of the regulations.

  BUT - as I said in the part you snipped - Mr. User WAS told to switch
on 'airplane mode' and he was NOT told to switch WiFi back on. So this
Mr. User is a naugthty boy and hence all bets are off.

[Left for completeness:]

> >> Better still, I'd remove "airplane mode" altogether and replace it
> >> with a "no radios" mode, with an icon the didn't look like a plane.
> > 
> >  'geek' approach. Not acceptable. See above.
> 
> It's a 'geek' problem. 
> 
> Unless the phone itself knows what the regulations are for the 
> particular flight that its owner is taking then it shouldn't attempt to 
> tell the user whether or not it is in a safe or legal mode for that 
> flight. Unless and until the phone can do that it is not a "user 
> friendly" problem, but must remain in the realm of geekdom.
> 
> "no radios" may not be the best word for it, but some name that draws 
> attention to the geek-nature of the setting rather than making it a 
> source of false reassurance seems to me to required.

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Battery usage The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-08-02 13:51 -0700
  Re: Battery usage Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2016-08-02 22:05 +0100
    Re: Battery usage The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-08-02 17:24 -0700
  Re: Battery usage tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-08-02 22:52 -0400
    Re: Battery usage nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-02 23:06 -0400
      Re: Battery usage tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-08-04 04:07 -0400
    Re: Battery usage The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-08-02 21:38 -0700
      Re: Battery usage tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-08-04 04:13 -0400
        Re: Battery usage nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-04 13:02 -0400
          Re: Battery usage mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2016-08-04 14:14 -0700
            Re: Battery usage nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-04 17:33 -0400
              Re: Battery usage mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2016-08-05 01:07 -0700
          Re: Battery usage tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-08-05 01:38 -0400
            Re: Battery usage nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-05 01:40 -0400
            Re: Battery usage The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 14:46 -0700
              Re: Battery usage nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-05 17:48 -0400
                Re: Battery usage tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-08-06 04:22 -0400
                Re: Battery usage nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-06 10:36 -0400
                Re: Battery usage The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-08-06 12:59 -0700
                Re: Battery usage nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-06 16:02 -0400
        Re: Battery usage The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 14:45 -0700
    Re: Battery usage Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 07:47 +0000
      Re: Battery usage tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-08-04 04:18 -0400
    Re: Battery usage Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2016-08-09 13:43 +0100
      Re: Battery usage nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-09 09:32 -0400
      Re: Battery usage tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-08-09 21:33 -0400
        Re: Battery usage nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-09 21:46 -0400
          Re: Battery usage AL <noemail@none.com> - 2016-08-09 21:07 -0700
        Re: Battery usage Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2016-08-11 13:30 +0100
          Re: Battery usage nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-11 09:32 -0400
            Re: Battery usage Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2016-08-12 13:14 +0100
              Re: Battery usage Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-08-12 17:54 +0000
                Re: Battery usage Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2016-08-13 12:00 +0100
                Re: Battery usage Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-08-13 19:01 +0000
                Re: Battery usage Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2016-08-14 12:34 +0100
                Re: Battery usage Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-08-14 15:28 +0000
                Flying in circles (Was: Battery usage) Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2016-08-15 11:08 +0100
                Re: Flying in circles Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-08-15 11:43 +0000
                Re: Battery usage Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-08-14 15:31 +0000
              Re: Battery usage nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-12 13:59 -0400
                Re: Battery usage Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> - 2016-08-13 12:00 +0100
  Re: Battery usage Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 07:37 +0000
    Re: Battery usage The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 10:27 -0700
      Re: Battery usage Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 17:51 +0000
        Re: Battery usage The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 10:58 -0700
          Re: Battery usage Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 06:25 +0000
            Re: Battery usage crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 08:56 -0600
              Re: Battery usage nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-05 11:14 -0400
        Re: Battery usage nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 14:47 -0400
  Re: Battery usage crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 08:43 -0600
    Re: Battery usage The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 14:43 -0700

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