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Re: memory usage vs fan usage

From VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject Re: memory usage vs fan usage
Date 2025-04-17 15:07 -0500
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Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

> Anyway, I've always been a bit suspicious of the MemoryCompression 
> service, so I'm experimenting with it turned off for a bit.
> (powershell disable-mmagent -mc)

As far as memory compression goes, it might has some value on low-end
computers.  See the following about that wonderful OS "feature".

https://www.makeuseof.com/windows-memory-compression-guide/

Even if the data is held entirely in memory, like a buffer or cache,
compression takes CPU cycles, and more CPU cycles generate more heat.
Every read will have to decompress the data before it can be used.
Every write will have to compress the data.  That is overhead on the
CPU.

Apparently the Memory Compression service is always active.  I have 64
GB of RAM, and don't use anywhere near that much at any time.  Yet Task
Manager's Performance tab under Memory shows "Inuse: 6.3 GB (204 MB)
Available: 52.0 GB" which is the amount of RAM in use with the
compressed size in parenthesis, and the last is how much is free.  No
idea why anything in RAM got compressed considering over 50 GB of RAM is
unused.

I was going to ask how much free RAM you have, but I have gobs, and RAM
compression is still getting used.  Because compression is involved
means there are more CPU cycles for the same amount of data, so there
will be more heat with compression enabled.  Considering the overhead
involved to compress on write, and decompress on read, with lots more
CPU cycles to do both, seems another Microsoft gimmick most likely to
get their OS working on low-end computers (those with not much RAM).
You mentioned how much physical RAM you have in your computers, but not
how much is free after loading whatever programs you often use
concurrently.  So, yep, I'll ask: how much free RAM do you have?

I've seen some gamers noting they go from 60 fps to 70 fps with memory
compression disabled.  Some users have reported a whopping change from
30 fps to 120 fps.  3D graphics users have noted the app is slower when
memory compression is enabled.  Less overhead in CPU cycles to compress
on write and decompress on read.  Impact would be affected a lot by the
performance of the CPU: a low-end slow CPU would take longer to compress
and decompress.

https://www.elevenforum.com/t/enable-or-disable-memory-compression-in-windows-10-and-windows-11.3555/

With 64 GB of RAM (often only 10% of it in use), and 1 TB SSD NVMe, 2 TB
SSD, and 4 TB spinner all of which are less than half occupied, or much
less, I certainly don't need RAM and disk compression trying to save
resources that far exceed the demand.  Considering how memory
compression is not saving me from some low-memory disaster, I'll be
disabling it.

get-mmagent

in Powershell (with admin privs) shows it is currently enabled on my
desktop PC.  I see no point in adding all that CPU overhead for
compression when I have gobs of free RAM.

disable-mmagent -mc

Even if I get no performance boost from not compressing into RAM, I'd
rather the CPU run cooler by not wasting cycle on superfluous
compression.

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memory usage vs fan usage Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-17 15:16 +0100
  Re: memory usage vs fan usage Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-17 12:09 -0400
    Re: memory usage vs fan usage Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-17 19:57 +0100
      Re: memory usage vs fan usage Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-18 03:15 -0400
  Re: memory usage vs fan usage VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-17 11:59 -0500
    Re: memory usage vs fan usage Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-17 19:40 +0100
      Re: memory usage vs fan usage Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-19 12:04 +0000
        Re: memory usage vs fan usage Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-19 13:36 +0100
          Re: memory usage vs fan usage Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-19 09:25 -0400
          Re: memory usage vs fan usage Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-19 14:54 +0000
            Re: memory usage vs fan usage Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-19 16:16 +0100
            Re: memory usage vs fan usage Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-24 08:17 +0100
              Re: memory usage vs fan usage VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-24 05:14 -0500
                Re: memory usage vs fan usage Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-24 11:30 +0100
                Re: memory usage vs fan usage Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-24 09:08 -0400
                Re: memory usage vs fan usage VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-24 20:59 -0500
                Re: memory usage vs fan usage Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-25 07:40 +0100
                Re: memory usage vs fan usage Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-25 19:13 +0100
                Re: memory usage vs fan usage VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-25 22:29 -0500
                Re: memory usage vs fan usage Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-26 10:31 +0100
                Re: memory usage vs fan usage VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-26 15:05 -0500
        Re: memory usage vs fan usage "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-19 14:36 +0200
          Re: memory usage vs fan usage Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-19 13:56 +0100
          Re: memory usage vs fan usage Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-19 09:28 -0400
  Re: memory usage vs fan usage VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-17 15:07 -0500
    Re: memory usage vs fan usage "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-17 22:25 +0200
      Re: memory usage vs fan usage VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-17 19:30 -0500
        Re: memory usage vs fan usage "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-18 14:09 +0200
          Re: memory usage vs fan usage VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-18 11:13 -0500
            Re: memory usage vs fan usage "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-18 21:33 +0200
    Re: memory usage vs fan usage Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-17 22:12 +0100
      Re: memory usage vs fan usage VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-17 20:07 -0500
      Re: memory usage vs fan usage Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-18 05:24 -0400
        Re: memory usage vs fan usage Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-18 12:08 +0100
          Re: memory usage vs fan usage Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-18 18:09 +0000
            Re: memory usage vs fan usage Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-18 19:36 +0100
  Re: memory usage vs fan usage "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-17 22:29 +0200
    Re: memory usage vs fan usage Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-17 22:17 +0100
      Re: memory usage vs fan usage "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-18 02:19 +0200
      Re: memory usage vs fan usage Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-18 05:52 -0400

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