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Re: [OT] Early Asian History

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On 5/06/2016 1:32 PM, Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote:
> On Sat, 04 Jun 2016 21:58:08 -0700, Robert Woodward
> <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:
>
>> In article
>> <1hj6lblkvcnvb1rdcihlr401a0k17r52oe@reader80.eternal-september.org>,
>> Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 17:37:52 -0400, "J. Clarke"
>>> <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <a9a0ac4a-0d00-43e6-bed9-7a77343ea662@googlegroups.com>,
>>>> jsavard@ecn.ab.ca says...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, June 4, 2016 at 2:11:09 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> As for Mr. Savard, I refuse to take seriously anyone using Wade-Giles
>>>>>> rather than Pinyin.
>>>>>
>>>>> I refuse to acknowledge the legitimacy of the regime responsible for the
>>>>> Great Leap Forward, the Cultural Revolution, and the Tienanmen Square
>>>>> massacre.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, the US refused to acknowledge it too, and if Nixon hadn't come
>>>> along we'd probably still be refusing to acknowledge it right up to the
>>>> time that it rained nuclear destruction on our heads.
>>>
>>> So instead of using a more accurate, convenient, and up-to-date
>>> transcription system, he'll stick to an outdated, inaccurate one
>>> created by British imperialists.
>>
>> Wasn't it based on the language spoken by the population of the lower
>> reaches of the Pearl River? (which wasn't the same language Pinyin
>> supports)
>
> That's why it was inaccurate even when it was new.
>
> The Chinese languages have changed in the last 150 years, in any case.
> I have my mother's old Cantonese textbook from the 1920s, and what it
> teaches is not the way modern Cantonese is spoken.  (Not that
> Cantonese is as widely spoken as it used to be.)

Wouldn't Cantonese still be the most widely-spoken form of Chinese 
outside China?
-- 
Robert B. born England a long time ago;
Western Australia since 1972

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[OT] Early Asian History William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2016-06-02 12:51 -0700
  Re: [OT] Early Asian History Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2016-06-02 15:43 -0700
    Re: [OT] Early Asian History Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-06-02 19:03 -0700
  Re: [OT] Early Asian History Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-02 21:35 -0700
    Re: [OT] Early Asian History William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 11:03 -0700
  Re: [OT] Early Asian History Bill Gill <billnews2@cox.net> - 2016-06-03 08:24 -0500
    Re: [OT] Early Asian History William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 10:53 -0700
  Re: [OT] Early Asian History Joe Bernstein <joe@sfbooks.com> - 2016-06-03 11:57 -0700
    Re: [OT] Early Asian History Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 12:50 -0700
    Re: [OT] Early Asian History Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-06-04 00:21 -0400
      Re: [OT] Early Asian History Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-04 07:28 -0700
        Re: [OT] Early Asian History Joe Bernstein <joe@sfbooks.com> - 2016-06-04 10:43 -0700
          Re: [OT] Early Asian History Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-06-04 16:11 -0400
            Re: [OT] Early Asian History Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-04 14:08 -0700
              Re: [OT] Early Asian History "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-04 17:37 -0400
                Re: [OT] Early Asian History Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-06-04 17:56 -0400
                Re: [OT] Early Asian History "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-04 18:15 -0400
                Re: [OT] Early Asian History Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2016-06-04 21:58 -0700
                Re: [OT] Early Asian History Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-06-05 01:32 -0400
                Re: [OT] Early Asian History "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-06-05 12:43 -0400
                Re: [OT] Early Asian History Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-06-05 14:53 -0400
                Re: [OT] Early Asian History "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-06-05 15:37 -0400
                Re: [OT] Early Asian History Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2016-06-06 10:37 +0800
                Re: [OT] Early Asian History "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-06-05 23:05 -0400
                Re: [OT] Early Asian History Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-06-06 01:13 -0400
                Re: [OT] Early Asian History Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-06-05 23:38 -0600
                Re: [OT] Early Asian History Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-06-06 02:41 -0400
                Re: [OT] Early Asian History Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-06-06 01:57 -0600
                Re: [OT] Early Asian History lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-06 13:51 -0700
                Re: [OT] Early Asian History William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2016-06-06 12:13 -0700
                Re: [OT] Early Asian History jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2016-06-06 21:54 +0100
                Re: [OT] Early Asian History Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-07 04:40 -0700
                Re: [OT] Early Asian History "John F. Eldredge" <john@jfeldredge.com> - 2016-06-07 23:39 +0000
                Re: [OT] Early Asian History Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-06-07 22:09 -0600
                Re: [OT] Early Asian History "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-06-08 13:26 -0400
                Re: [OT] Early Asian History Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2016-06-08 12:10 +0800
                Re: [OT] Early Asian History Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> - 2016-06-07 12:12 +0800
                Re: [OT] Early Asian History Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-06-07 01:32 -0400
                Re: [OT] Early Asian History "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-06-06 00:26 -0700
                Re: [OT] Early Asian History Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2016-06-05 21:43 -0700
                Re: [OT] Early Asian History "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-06-06 09:46 -0400
                Re: [OT] Early Asian History Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-05 05:29 -0700
                Re: [OT] Early Asian History "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-06-05 12:54 -0400
                Re: [OT] Early Asian History Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-05 12:27 -0700
                Re: [OT] Early Asian History "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-06-05 23:16 -0400
        Re: [OT] Early Asian History wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-08-03 17:32 -0400
          Re: [OT] Early Asian History Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2016-08-03 17:36 -0400
            Re: [OT] Early Asian History wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-08-03 18:21 -0400
    Re: [OT] Early Asian History William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2016-06-04 12:39 -0700
      Re: [OT] Early Asian History Joe Bernstein <joe@sfbooks.com> - 2016-06-08 09:13 -0700
        Re: [OT] Early Asian History Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-08 09:24 -0700
        Re: [OT] Early Asian History Joe Bernstein <joe@sfbooks.com> - 2016-06-09 20:24 -0700
  Re: [OT] Early Asian History "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 16:25 -0700
    Re: [OT] Early Asian History Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-06-06 07:18 -0700
      Re: [OT] Early Asian History Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-06 09:46 -0700
        Re: [OT] Early Asian History "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-06-06 13:23 -0400
  Re: [OT] Early Asian History David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-06-06 21:39 -0500

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