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Re: AM radio Qbasic

From "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: AM radio Qbasic
Date 2016-05-09 13:05 +1000
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Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> wrote

>>>>> A home 6kw diesel generator or a largish solar panel with a Tesla
>>>>> or two Leafs as batteries could easily supply that for a long period.

>>>> Don’t need anything like that with sat phones.

>>> Aside from the few people on a.f.c. who probably do have a sat
>>> phone, I do not think I've ever known anyone who had one.

>> I do.

> Yup. I expect you need one in Dingo Bum, Australia.

I don’t and I was saying I know people who have one, not that I have one 
myself.

> Morten probably has one for the places he goes, too. I excluded a.f.c. 
> denizens in that statement. In the US, very few people have any reason to 
> own one. Maybe in Alaska.

We aren't talking about communicating with the general
public in an emergency situation, we are discussing what
to do in an emergency situation in an area where there is
no multiply redundant cellphone and landline service etc
and it’s the professionals who are dealing with the
emergency who are being communicated with, not the
general public.

The only sensible thing to do as far as communicating
with the general public is to use the TV systems and
the AM and FM radio systems, not SW radio.

And SW radio is hopeless compared with what is possible
with stat phones with the professionals involved in areas
where the cellphone and landline system is unusable for
a while until portable cellphone bases called COWs (cell
on wheels) can be flown in etc.

>>> That's not gonna help.

>> It is for the sort of places that don’t have any real cellphone system
>> with lots of redundancy in case of an emergency being discussed.

> Even Katrina took out cellphones in a fairly big area. For weeks.

Sure, but it makes a lot more sense to use the TV, AM and FM transmitters
to communicate with the general public than to try to cobble up a high
power SW transmitter when hardly anyone has anything to listen to that
with and they all have multiple receivers for TV, AM and FM available.
Plenty of them in their cars which can be used even without mains power.

> Something really big (what? I dunno, a Carrington Event takes out the 
> power grids around the world, maybe) would be worse.

Sure, but most of the TV, AM and FM transmitters and nearly all of
the landline exchanges have backup generators which can be used
in that situation and the vast bulk of the general public has access
to receivers at least in cars and don’t need mains power to use the
landline system.

And sat phones are a lot more useful in that situation for the
professionals than any high power SW transmitter desperately
cobbled up out of whatever parts you can find etc.

The military has plenty of comms capability
that doesn’t rely on mains power too.

>>> Ok. total cost for everyone to have a sat phone and service? That's
>>> a boatload of sat phones at $600-$1000 apiece, not counting service,

>> Don’t need everyone to have one, just those that matter in an emergency.

>>> which for most people will be totally useless outside of an
>>> emergency. Vs. total cost for a SW station with emergency power and
>>> a mess of $60 SW receivers?

>> SW receivers are no use for his 11M service.

> 11M is 25.6-26.1MHz.  Most SW receivers should do that.

But the problem is that the antennas used in the sort
of SW receivers that most of the general public has is
useless for any sort of range at that frequency.

Sure, you can certainly use the CB radio band and there are
quite a few receivers in that band, but it makes a lot more
sense to use TV, AM and FM transmitters to communicate
with the general public who has a hell of a lot more of
them than they ever have SW receivers and CB radios.

> It's a band that tends to be limited to groundwave,

So is useless compared with TV, AM and FM just because
those have the same groundwave distance limitation and
have vastly more receivers already in the hands of the
general public and are used by them every single day
and plenty of them are in the cars and phones where
they can be used if there is no mains power available.

> but that's ok, if you want long range go with something in a lower band.

And get to wear the fact that fuck all have receivers for that anymore.

> Biggest problem is that here 11M is also the CB band.

And you can be sure that that will be swamped with people
using it if there is no cellphone and landline system working.

> On the plus side, some people would have CB gear that could be used as a 
> receiver. On the negative side, some of them would probably interfere.

Absolutely certainly would be in a massive emergency
which has taken out the cellphone and landline systems.

That cant happen with the TV, AM and FM systems, so
it makes a hell of a lot more sense to use those instead,
even if you do have to cobble up something for the
emergency.

> But CB isn't widely used here any more, outside of a few channels.

But would be in the sort of emergency that has
taken out the cellphone and landline systems.

> Most of the SW receivers on eBay cover the band. Probably Amazon too, but 
> most of those don't show specs.

And fuck all have them. Amazon won't be delivering
in that sort of emergency even if they do have droid
delivery by then.

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                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-05 11:27 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-05 14:52 +0200
                Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 04:04 +1000
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-05 22:50 +0100
                Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 08:26 +1000
                Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 05:39 +1000
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-04 04:37 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-04-03 10:52 -0700
                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-04 17:40 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-04-04 19:04 -0700
                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-05 12:57 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-04-05 13:43 -0700
                Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 07:38 +1000
                Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-11 17:24 -0400
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-12 11:45 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-12 13:47 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-12 16:50 +0200
                Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 05:04 +1000
                Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 17:32 -0400
                Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 17:30 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-04-12 17:00 -0700
                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-13 13:18 -0700
                Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 17:36 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-14 16:07 +0200
                Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 12:04 -0500
                Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 09:28 +1000
                Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 19:47 -0400
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-14 11:43 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-14 16:20 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-14 20:35 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-15 09:23 -0400
                Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-04-15 12:51 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-15 16:59 +0200
                Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-04-15 11:59 -0400
                Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 18:52 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-16 01:45 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 22:24 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-04-16 10:13 -0700
                Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 18:41 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-17 11:09 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-04-17 10:29 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-20 20:36 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-04-20 19:48 -0500
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-16 09:35 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-16 13:16 +0200
                Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-04-16 13:13 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-16 10:36 -0400
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-16 20:18 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-16 20:46 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-04-17 09:53 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-17 12:07 +0200
                Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 08:51 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-17 09:26 -0500
                Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 11:51 +1000
                Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 11:44 +1000
                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-18 09:44 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-18 12:43 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-04-18 12:41 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-19 18:29 +0000
                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-19 12:00 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-20 01:36 +0000
                Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 08:38 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-18 16:44 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-04-18 16:38 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-04-18 13:04 -0500
                Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-04-18 18:51 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-04-18 14:03 -0500
                Re: Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 14:19 +1000
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-04-25 20:13 -0500
                Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-04-26 11:42 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-26 11:49 -0400
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-27 10:32 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "Jack Brown" <7865jb@nospam.com> - 2016-04-28 06:09 +1000
                Re: Qbasic Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-04-18 16:12 -0300
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-18 20:29 +0000
                Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 20:20 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-19 06:20 -0700
                Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 14:17 +1000
                Re: Qbasic Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-04-18 21:36 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 14:11 +1000
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-18 14:47 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2016-04-19 22:06 -0300
                Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-04-20 10:31 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-20 10:55 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-04-20 11:15 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-21 08:01 +0200
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-21 12:34 -0400
                Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-04-20 10:20 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-20 15:29 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-04-25 20:24 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-20 15:25 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-04-20 18:07 +0000
                Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 13:07 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-20 11:44 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-04-20 15:25 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-21 08:19 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-04-21 15:25 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-21 17:58 +0000
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-21 11:28 +0000
                Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 07:11 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-04-20 17:49 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-21 03:52 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-21 08:11 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-21 17:58 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-21 12:34 -0400
                Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-04-21 14:57 -0500
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-21 20:20 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-22 11:18 -0400
                Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 11:24 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-21 16:25 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-05-16 19:42 -0400
                Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 14:15 +1000
                Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 12:21 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-19 06:03 +0100
                Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 14:33 +1000
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-22 07:11 +0100
                Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-23 05:31 +1000
                Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-04-22 15:01 -0500
                Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-23 12:21 +1000
                Re: Qbasic Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2016-04-24 11:21 +0200
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-24 12:43 +0200
                Re: Qbasic Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2016-04-25 07:16 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-25 10:10 +0200
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-25 15:42 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-25 16:55 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name,invalid> - 2016-04-26 00:05 +0200
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-26 06:14 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-04-26 07:08 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-26 12:39 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-26 13:54 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-04-26 10:18 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-26 16:39 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-04-26 11:44 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-26 18:15 +0200
                Re: Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-04-26 22:44 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-27 10:50 +0200
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-27 11:10 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-24 11:39 +0100
                Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-24 07:43 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-04-24 12:20 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-04-24 17:01 -0300
                Re: Qbasic Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2016-04-26 21:37 +0200
                Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-04-26 16:37 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-26 22:16 -0500
                Re: Qbasic "Jack Brown" <7865jb@nospam.com> - 2016-04-27 14:18 +1000
                Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-04-27 12:39 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-27 19:32 +0100
                Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-04-28 12:06 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-28 13:43 +0100
                Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-04-29 12:18 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-29 13:39 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-29 15:19 +0200
                Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-04-29 14:27 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-29 09:58 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-29 19:51 +0200
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-30 06:28 +0100
                Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 08:11 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-30 14:14 +0100
                Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 09:54 -0400
                Re: Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 13:54 +1000
                Re: Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 13:46 +1000
                Re: Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 06:11 +1000
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-28 09:02 +0200
                Re: Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 05:49 +1000
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-25 15:08 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-25 16:55 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-25 23:56 +0200
                Re: Qbasic Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> - 2016-04-22 01:02 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-22 15:22 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-22 11:41 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-19 11:21 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-18 13:25 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Mark Storkamp <mstorkamp@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-18 13:45 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-18 15:37 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-19 18:29 +0000
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-19 19:18 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-04-19 17:04 -0300
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-19 17:52 -0400
                Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 20:17 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-04-25 20:39 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-18 12:25 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-19 06:00 +0100
                Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 14:22 +1000
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-04-25 20:49 -0500
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-26 11:02 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-26 17:38 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-04-26 14:31 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-04-26 21:21 +0000
                Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 18:33 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-04-26 22:35 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-04-27 16:19 -0300
                Re: Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-04-27 19:53 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-04-30 15:24 -0300
                Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-04-29 16:14 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-27 06:06 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-27 10:59 +0200
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-27 11:12 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-04-27 14:21 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-04-27 11:38 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-04-27 13:51 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-27 19:36 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-28 08:48 +0200
                Re: Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-04-27 20:05 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-28 09:09 +0200
                Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-04-28 22:25 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-04-27 13:46 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-04-27 20:01 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-04-27 20:00 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-04-27 22:39 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-04-27 22:03 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-27 19:36 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-04-29 16:30 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-29 19:30 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-30 23:39 +0200
                Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-04-29 16:23 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-04-26 22:55 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-04-27 10:00 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-04-27 10:08 -0700
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-27 10:35 +0000
                Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-04-27 12:40 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-04-27 14:24 -0400
                Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-04-28 12:06 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-27 12:59 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-28 08:59 +0200
                Re: Qbasic Clark G <clarkm.geimsler@ieeemmm.org> - 2016-04-28 20:43 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-04-28 19:14 -0400
                Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-04-29 16:41 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-29 19:30 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-04-29 22:05 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-29 17:20 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-04-30 07:10 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-30 01:44 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-30 06:25 -0400
                Re: Qbasic sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2016-04-30 23:58 -0400
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-01 08:55 +0000
                Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-01 12:26 +0000
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-01 18:25 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-02 14:12 +0000
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-02 17:52 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-05-03 16:58 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-04 04:35 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-05-02 22:11 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-05-03 06:59 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-05-03 14:34 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-05-03 12:37 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-03 19:00 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-05-03 17:07 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-05-03 22:49 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-04 04:35 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-05-03 13:43 -0700
                Re: Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 06:02 +1000
                Re: Qbasic sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2016-05-06 19:13 -0400
                Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-07 13:14 +0000
                Re: Qbasic sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2016-05-07 16:27 -0400
                Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-08 13:08 +0000
                Re: Qbasic sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2016-05-08 20:49 -0400
                Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-09 13:08 +0000
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-07 20:29 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-07 16:47 +0000
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-07 20:23 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-30 12:29 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-30 12:43 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-30 19:58 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-05-01 06:59 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-04-30 15:09 -0500
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-01 08:49 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-01 00:06 +0200
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-01 04:36 +0100
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-01 08:53 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-05-01 06:04 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-02 14:12 +0000
                Re:AM radio  Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-30 12:00 -0700
                Re: AM radio  Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 15:47 -0500
                Re: AM radio  Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-05-01 00:15 +0000
                Re: AM radio  Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-01 12:26 +0000
                Re: AM radio  Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-05-01 15:24 +0000
                Re: AM radio  Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-02 13:13 +0000
                Re: AM radio  Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-05-02 14:45 +0000
                Re: AM radio Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-02 15:51 -0400
                Re: AM radio Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-05-02 16:09 -0500
                Re: AM radio Qbasic "Simo" <dhy287@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 07:40 +1000
                Re: AM radio Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-03 18:33 +0000
                Re: AM radio Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-03 16:09 -0400
                Re: AM radio Qbasic Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-05-03 13:47 -0700
                Re: AM radio Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-05-04 06:33 +0100
                Re: AM radio Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-04 15:11 +0000
                Re: AM radio  Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-03 11:50 +0000
                Re: AM radio  Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-03 13:35 +0100
                Re: AM radio  Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-03 18:28 +0000
                Re: AM radio Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-03 16:09 -0400
                Re: AM radio Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-05-03 16:50 -0500
                Re: AM radio Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-04 13:02 +0000
                Re: AM radio Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-04 17:32 +0000
                Re: AM radio Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-04 17:30 +0000
                Re: AM radio Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-05-04 06:27 +0100
                Re: AM radio Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-04 17:35 +0000
                Re: AM radio Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-05-04 06:23 +0100
                Re: AM radio Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-04 17:43 +0000
                Re: AM radio Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-04 16:13 -0400
                Re: AM radio Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-05-04 22:08 +0100
                Re: AM radio Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-05 19:45 +0000
                Re: AM radio Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-06 07:22 -0400
                Re: AM radio Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-06 15:34 +0000
                Re: AM radio Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-06 22:50 +0200

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