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| Date | 2022-05-11 09:07 -0500 |
|---|---|
| Subject | Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ] |
| Newsgroups | comp.theory |
| References | <xpmdnb7bu_9vxOf_nZ2dnUU7_8zNnZ2d@giganews.com> <87mtfpl73u.fsf@bsb.me.uk> |
| From | olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> |
| Message-ID | <doSdnZX9dO2SXub_nZ2dnUU7_8zNnZ2d@giganews.com> (permalink) |
On 5/10/2022 10:50 AM, Ben wrote:
> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> writes:
>
>> (a) Verify that the execution trace of P by H is correct by comparing
>> this execution trace to the ax86 source-code of P.
>
> P called with what argument? I assume P.
>
>> (b) Verify that this execution trace shows that P is stuck in
>> infinitely nested simulation (a non-halting behavior).
>
> Something is wrong in your code if P(P), or a simulation of P(P), does
> not halt, since you told us that it does. Post the code and someone
> will help you find the bug.
>
If you had the technical skill you could verify that it is 100%
impossible for there to be anything wrong with the code on the basis of
that of the verifiably correct execution trace that it derives.
In other words you simply don't have the skill to see that the verified
facts supersede your incorrect opinions.
>> #include <stdint.h>
>> #define u32 uint32_t
>>
>> void P(u32 x)
>> {
>> if (H(x, x))
>> HERE: goto HERE;
>> return;
>> }
>>
>> int main()
>> {
>> Output("Input_Halts = ", H((u32)P, (u32)P));
>> }
>
> Unless you are retracting any of the facts you have previously stated,
> we know (because you've told us) that H(P,P) returns 0 and we know
> (because you've told us) that P(P) halts. The trace of the execution
> will either confirm this, or the trace is faulty. Nothing new can come
> from looking at traces of mystery code.
>
--
Copyright 2022 Pete Olcott
"Talent hits a target no one else can hit;
Genius hits a target no one else can see."
Arthur Schopenhauer
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Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ] olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-10 07:26 -0500
Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ] wij <wyniijj2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-10 07:55 -0700
Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ] Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-10 16:50 +0100
Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ] olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-10 23:47 -0500
Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ] Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-11 07:16 -0400
Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ] Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-11 14:21 +0100
Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ] olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-11 09:24 -0500
Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ] Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-11 20:51 +0100
Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ] Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-11 19:42 -0400
Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ] olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-11 09:07 -0500
Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ] Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-11 20:54 +0100
Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ] olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-11 16:35 -0500
Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ] Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-12 01:25 +0100
Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ] olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-11 19:38 -0500
Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ] Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-11 20:59 -0400
Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ] Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-12 02:24 +0100
Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ]( will keep repeating until understood ) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-11 21:46 -0500
Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ]( will keep repeating until understood ) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-11 23:10 -0400
Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ]( will keep repeating until understood ) Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-12 21:32 +0100
Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ] wij <wyniijj2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-13 12:38 -0700
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