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<hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote in message 
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> On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 3:24:58 PM UTC-4, Walter Banks wrote:
>
>> I was reading David Brooks (NYT) editorial earlier today about all the
>> bad things Trump is or would be. The thing that jumped out at me if
>> Trump is the candidate that voters trust what does that say about the
>> rest of the politicians.
>
> First off, Trump is NOT a canddiate that the voters 'trust'.

They trust him a lot more than they do anyone else.

> If the Republican party had a single better choice,
> Trump would not be taken seriously.

He would be by plenty of the voters, just because he
says what he thinks and what many of the voters think
about immigrants, moslems, women etc etc etc.

> But their other two leading canddiates, Rubio
> and Cruz, were quite weak themselves.

Weak in a policy sense with Cruz, sure, but you
can't say that about Trump.

> Accordingly, Trump is not a majority candidate.

Bet he will be with repug voters.

> Secondly, the Republicans have created the mess themselves with
> their years of hate and lies.  As Mr. S correctly pointed out, they have
> spent the Obama years passionately believing and expanding the idea
> that is a Muslim born in Kenya, a communist liberal, and numerous
> other junk.  The Republicans have campaigned against any and all
> government as evil, wanting to return to the year 1900.  So, if their
> supporters don't trust the candidates, it's their own fault.

Yes, but that doesn't alter the fact that the voters trust
Trump much more, just because he clearly does say what
he thinks and doesn't give a damn what anyone thinks.

>> The answer may be no farther than 7 years of GOB congressional
>> obstruction. Listen to the voice of Cruz "I led the fight against..... "
>> What did he lead the fight for??
>> A career senate leader stating at the beginning of Obama's first term
>> that it is his prime job to make sure that Obama a 4 year president.
>
> True.
>
>
>> Jobs have been going away, years and years of promises ignored, wages
>> have remained static, violence is up and business leaders/employees
>> salary ratio is an ever larger number.
>
> The issue of foreign trade is complex and difficult to follow.

And isnt something any prez has any real influence over.
It happens regardless of any prez and congress too.

> The government does not have the power to regulate actual wages,

It does indirectly with the number of immigrants allowed
into the country and what it does about the illegals.

> and I'm not sure what the government could do to alleviate the big wage 
> gap.

It could obviously enforce a minimum wage.

> I think we need fresh labor unions,

Hardly anyone agrees with you on that.

> but unfortunately, the labor movement is
> stuck in the past, ineffective, and unpopular.

And no labor movement world wide does any
better, it's the nature of the beast, essentially
because all they ever attempt to do is look
after their member's interests and now that
we do have very decent workplace safety
laws and very decent working conditions,
all they can really do is demand higher
wages and better pensions etc and that
isnt necessarily good for any industry now.

> I also think we need heavy enforcement of anti-trust laws

I don't if by that you mean breaking
up Microsoft and Apple and Google.

That is the last thing that should be done given that
they are what sets the US apart from the rest of the
first and second world now.

> and fair trade.

That can't fly unless you spell out what you mean by fair trade.

> One problem with foreign trade is that it has allowed us to import
> many goods very cheaply.

That isn't a problem for everyone who buys those products.

> Clothing, for example, is relatively a lot cheaper
> thanks to imports made by subsistence wage
> workers in poor countries.

They are in fact paid a hell of a lot better for doing that
work than they could earn anywhere else in their country.

> Unfortunately, this has made a lot of US jobs are gone.

Because US workers have to be paid a lot more.

> (Nabisco just announced it's closing a Chicago
> cookie factory in favor of Mexican production.)

Nothing unfair about that. It would in fact be very
unfair to not allow them to be made where they
can be made more cheaply.

>> What has anybody got to lose voting for a Trump
>> who just might not be more of the same next time?
>
> The answer is simply Godwin's law.
>
> Look at Chris Christie's record in New Jersey.  The state is worse
> off despite his dictatorial efforts.  Note that Christie ignores
> laws and contracts he doesn't like.  Will Trump repudiate US debt?

No reason why he should be that stupid.

He might well piss off Mexico by stopping immigration from
there, and might well piss off moslems very comprehensively
indeed. 

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