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Re: Ransomware

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"Walter Bushell" wrote:

> Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2/22/2016 12:00 PM, Osmium wrote:
>> > "Scott Lurndal" wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> writes:
>> >>> "Scott Lurndal" wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>> "Osmium" wrote:
>> >>>>> <snip>
>> >>>>> > But theory says you need a random number generator and, sadly,
>> >>>>> RC4 is
>> >>>>> > not
>> >>>>> a
>> >>>>>> random number generator.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Should be: But theory says you need a random number generator to
>> >>>>> create a
>> >>>>> one-time pad and, sadly, RC4 is not a random number generator.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> There's a random number generator in the CRC Math Handbook that 
>> >>>> would
>> >>>> work, if a bit slowly.
>> >>>
>> >>> Well it's not in *my* copy of CRC :-)
>> >>
>> >> It's a table in the back.  You're supposed to take a pencil,
>> >> close your eyes, and touch it to the page.  My copy dates from the
>> >> mid-70's
>> >> and is a box in the attic - it could have been in the chemical
>> >> handbook instead.
>> >
>> > Oh, *that*. Yes, my CRC has that, but that's just a *table* of random
>> > numbers not a *generator*. That's not suitable for a one time pad,
>> > since every college graduate of a certain age in the US with a
>> > technical degree has that book, so it doesn't meet the "one" criterion
>> > for a one-time pad. The smiley was because I thought my copy was a
>> > *lot* older than yours. It turns out it was just ... older.
>> >
>> > I actually looked on the net to try to find what I thought was a
>> > program - didn't succeed, though.
>>
>> It's not a program, but there's at least one website
>> https://www.random.org/
>> will provide a set of your very own random numbers. Their output has
>> been certified by a number of gaming-industry bodies, though not as
>> far as they know by the NSA.
>
> Would you trust No Such Agency if they did certify it?!

It occurs to me that this "certified" random number thing is much like the 
organic food movement.  You can't tell, by the end result, exactly *what* 
you have; you have to examine the chain of custody.  How long will it be 
till the Dollar Store will have a true random number generator with a USB 
port?

I don't know how feasible it is to "do" electronics anymore,  all the Radio 
Shack stores I had are gone. I think a one meg resistor is a good nucleus, 
despite Stephen's concerns.

Aside:  I wonder if Tesla got any money from the tooth brush charger people? 

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Re: Ransomware "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-20 13:46 -0600
  Re: Ransomware scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-22 15:14 +0000
    Re: Ransomware "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-22 10:12 -0600
      Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 04:13 +1100
      Re: Ransomware scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-22 17:26 +0000
        Re: Ransomware "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-22 12:00 -0600
          Re: Ransomware sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2016-02-22 13:19 -0500
          Re: Ransomware scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-22 18:28 +0000
            Re: Ransomware "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-22 13:26 -0600
            Re: Ransomware Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-02-24 09:24 -0500
          Re: Ransomware Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-22 15:19 -0600
            Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 15:57 -0600
              Re: Ransomware Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-22 16:27 -0600
                Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 17:57 -0600
            Re: Ransomware "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-22 15:59 -0600
              Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 20:54 -0600
                Re: Ransomware Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-22 21:27 -0600
                Re: Ransomware Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-02-25 08:33 -0500
            Re: Ransomware Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-02-24 09:23 -0500
              Re: Ransomware "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-24 08:40 -0600

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