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Re: How do gravity waves pull on things when speeding at light speed?

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On 21/02/2016 11:31 AM, David Fuller wrote:
> On Friday, February 19, 2016 at 3:09:58 AM UTC-6, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 19/02/2016 8:02 PM, benj wrote:
>>> On 02/19/2016 02:40 AM, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>> On 19/02/2016 6:13 PM, benj wrote:
>>>>> On 02/18/2016 10:10 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>>>> On 19/02/2016 3:33 AM, Monique de Brabant wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is impossible. No significant energy is been
>>>>>>> outputted before the actually merging collision. Orbiting
>>>>>>> masses are not loosing energy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, they have to be if they end up colliding, otherwise
>>>>>> they wouldn't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sylvia.
>>>>>>
>>>>> You saying there is no such thing a light pressure, sound
>>>>> wave pressure?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Er, no. I'm not saying anything at all about those things.
>>>>
>>>> Sylvia.
>>>
>>> Then perhaps you'd better explain what is "colliding" creating
>>> forces in those cases.
>>>
>>
>> The situation is that two black holes in orbit about each other
>> were getting closer and closer together. The closer they were, the
>> less total energy there was in the system. So, since they were
>> getting closer together, they were losing energy.
>>
>> That's really all there is to it.
>>
>> Sylvia.
>
>> Then perhaps you'd better explain what is "colliding" creating
>> forces in those cases.
>>
>
> The situation is that two black holes in orbit about each other were
> getting closer and closer together. The closer they were, the less
> total energy there was in the system. So, since they were getting
> closer together, they were losing energy.
>
> That's really all there is to it.
>
> Sylvia.
>
>
> So .... During the merger Event LIGO "At Earth" was measuring the
> Energy Drop in the "System Universe" by way of Measuring a Measurable
> (Drop or Oscillation) in the Impedance of the Vacuum in the System.
>
> There is NO Way by Triangulation to determine if the Merger event
> that caused the distance change between the MIRRORS was 180 degrees
> in the OPPOSING Direction.
>
> If Gravitational energy is Simply an Oscillation in the Vacuum
> impedance Supporting the Speed of light from Dropping to Zero, then
> Gravitational Energy Really CANNOT be considered ENERGY. It can, at a
> Minimum, be called an "Oscillation in the Energy of a System" and Not
> energy, and Gravitational energy is better considered an energy LOSS
> or Negative Energy
>

As a gravitational wave passes an object, different parts of that object 
are subject to different forces. A non rigid object will undergo a 
temporary change of size as a result. That can be exploited to do work, 
so energy is definitely being transferred.

In practice, of course, the amount of work done by a practical system is 
very small, but that doesn't invalidate the argument.

Sylvia.

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How do gravity waves pull on things when speeding at light speed? jamesl51165@gmail.com - 2016-02-11 15:13 -0800
  Re: How do gravity waves pull on things when speeding at light speed? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-12 17:30 +1100
    Re: How do gravity waves pull on things when speeding at light speed? jamesl51165@gmail.com - 2016-02-12 19:03 -0800
    Re: How do gravity waves pull on things when speeding at light speed? David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-14 09:18 -0800
      Re: How do gravity waves pull on things when speeding at light speed? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-15 17:17 +1100
        Re: How do gravity waves pull on things when speeding at light speed? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-15 09:41 -0600
          Re: How do gravity waves pull on things when speeding at light speed? David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-15 10:06 -0800
            Re: How do gravity waves pull on things when speeding at light speed? David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-15 10:55 -0800
            Re: How do gravity waves pull on things when speeding at light speed? David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-18 08:44 -0800
              Re: How do gravity waves pull on things when speeding at light speed? David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-18 09:57 -0800
                Re: How do gravity waves pull on things when speeding at light speed? David Waite <waitedavid1618@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-18 10:06 -0800
          Re: How do gravity waves pull on things when speeding at light speed? Monique de Brabant <moniqb@cafedelmar.org> - 2016-02-18 16:33 +0000
            Re: How do gravity waves pull on things when speeding at light speed? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-19 14:10 +1100
              Re: How do gravity waves pull on things when speeding at light speed? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 02:13 -0500
                Re: How do gravity waves pull on things when speeding at light speed? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-19 18:40 +1100
                Re: How do gravity waves pull on things when speeding at light speed? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 04:02 -0500
                Re: How do gravity waves pull on things when speeding at light speed? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-19 20:09 +1100
                Re: How do gravity waves pull on things when speeding at light speed? David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-20 16:31 -0800
                Re: How do gravity waves pull on things when speeding at light speed? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-22 22:22 +1100
                Re: How do gravity waves pull on things when speeding at light speed? David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-22 09:38 -0800
                Re: How do gravity waves pull on things when speeding at light speed? "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-22 20:08 +0100
  Re: How do gravity waves pull on things when speeding at light speed? Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2016-02-12 20:09 -0800
    Re: How do gravity waves pull on things when speeding at light speed? jamesl51165@gmail.com - 2016-02-14 08:58 -0800
  Re: How do gravity waves pull on things when speeding at light speed? jamesl51165@gmail.com - 2016-02-15 07:48 -0800
    Re: How do gravity waves pull on things when speeding at light speed? Céline Desirée Hedwig <celinedh@bernhardine.org> - 2016-02-15 16:00 +0000

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