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Re: Last Christmas I Gev You My Heart

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On 2015-12-25 14:16:05 +0000, Peter Duncanson [BrE] said:

> On Thu, 24 Dec 2015 22:43:59 -0800 (PST), Ross <benlizro@ihug.co.nz>
> wrote:
> 
>> On Friday, December 25, 2015 at 8:53:30 AM UTC+13, Jack Campin wrote:
>>> Is there any dialect of English where "give" has "gev" as a past
>>> tense form?
>>> 
>>> I don't think I've heard "special" as "spessshhhul" anywhere else
>>> either.
>>> 
>> 
>> Is there a dialect of English in which "special" does not have a "sh"
>> in it?
> 
> I think I've heard it in a very "upmarket" RP as approximately
> "spess-ee-ul".

Not quite the same as the pronunciation I was suggesting, but similar, 
especially if you take your "ee" to be reduced the point of being [j]. 
I'm not sure I'd call it upmarket RP, though, more wannabe upmarket RP. 
The sort of pronunciation Mrs Thatcher or Edward Heath might have used 
after speech therapy intended to eradicate their natural ways of 
speaking. Edward Heath's boat was called "Morning Cloud", for which he 
pronounced "Cloud" in a way Private Eye represented (if memory serves) 
as "Cleoud" -- something like [kljaʊ̯d].

-- 
athel

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Last Christmas I Gev You My Heart Jack Campin <bogus@purr.demon.co.uk> - 2015-12-24 19:53 +0000
  Re: Last Christmas I Gev You My Heart Harrison Hill <harrisonhill2345@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 12:54 -0800
  Re: Last Christmas I Gev You My Heart Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2015-12-25 11:36 +1100
    Re: Last Christmas I Gev You My Heart RH Draney <dadoctah@cox.net> - 2015-12-24 22:29 -0700
      Re: Last Christmas I Gev You My Heart "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-25 06:41 -0800
        Re: Last Christmas I Gev You My Heart Ross <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2015-12-25 16:50 -0800
          Re: Last Christmas I Gev You My Heart "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-25 19:03 -0800
        Re: Last Christmas I Gev You My Heart Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> - 2016-01-04 10:51 +0000
          Re: Last Christmas I Gev You My Heart "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2016-01-04 04:24 -0800
  Re: Last Christmas I Gev You My Heart wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) - 2015-12-25 05:56 +0000
  Re: Last Christmas I Gev You My Heart Ross <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2015-12-24 22:43 -0800
    Re: Last Christmas I Gev You My Heart Jack Campin <bogus@purr.demon.co.uk> - 2015-12-25 11:38 +0000
    Re: Last Christmas I Gev You My Heart "Peter Duncanson [BrE]" <mail@peterduncanson.net> - 2015-12-25 14:16 +0000
      Re: Last Christmas I Gev You My Heart Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2015-12-28 10:30 +0100
    Re: Last Christmas I Gev You My Heart Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2015-12-28 10:19 +0100
  Re: Last Christmas I Gev You My Heart GordonD <g.davie@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-25 14:02 +0000

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