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Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>

Bite My Shiny Metal Ass (aka Shiny Tinfoil Brain), in
<news:l7i5ebteuqfi3pr89li8k6j9e9vgpddga3@4ax.com> did thusly jump head
first into the wood chipper again:

> FNVWe stomped a retard's brain flat. Again:

>> Bite My Shiny Metal Ass (aka Shiny Tinfoil Brain, in

>>> FNVWe stomped a retard's brain flat. Again:

>>>> Bite My Shiny Metal Ass (aka Shiny Tinfoil Brain), in

>>>>> FNVWe stomped a retard's brain flat. Again:

>>>>>> What is the plasma temperature of H2O, Jim? 12000 K.

>>>>> ROFL!  There are no molecules in a plasma, faketard.
>>>>> Water has NO plasma phase, ergo no plasma temperature.

>>>> You apparently *like* proving yourself to be a moron:
>>>> 
>>>> <https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/water-and-plasma.390771/>
>>>> "Any substance - regardless of what is its composition - becomes
>>>> plasma if heated high enough. However, once it is heated it doesn't
>>>> contain molecules, as all chemical bonds are broken."

>>> Uh, Fakey... you just posted a cite that says what i just
>>> said.

>> You lying kook, you k'lamed that water could not become plasmized:
>> "Water has NO plasma phase, ergo no plasma temperature."

> I was right.  You don't understand this sentence, which YOU
> quoted:
> 
> "However, once it is heated it doesn't contain molecules, as
> all chemical bonds are broken."

You fucking moron. You k'lamed water could not be plasmized. It most
obviously can.

<https://www.quora.com/Can-liquids-be-turned-into-plasma>
=========================================================
Owen Jones, Physics graduate, postdoctoral researcher in magnetic
confinement fusion.

In order to jump straight from a liquid to a plasma, you need to
supply sufficient energy to remove the electrons from the atoms over a
large enough volume that the material can be classified as a plasma
(see my answer to this question for more details on what constitutes a
plasma). The easiest way of doing this is with an extremely powerful,
intense laser pulse. Some of the world's most powerful short-pulse
lasers are capable of producing power densities of a billion trillion
(10^21) watts per square centimetre. The electric fields generated by
these lasers are strong enough to rip electrons from the atoms in any
material, be it solid, liquid or gas, in much less than a trillionth
of a second. The material doesn't even get a chance to go through the
normal solid-liquid-gas phase transitions; it's completely vaporized
and ionized almost as soon as the laser pulse hits it.

So in answer to your question about converting a liquid straight to a
plasma, it's possible as long as you have a big enough laser!
=========================================================

<https://www.researchgate.net/post/Is_it_possible_to_create_a_plasma_from_water_vapour_in_a_laboratory>
=========================================================
Is it possible to create a plasma from water vapour in a laboratory?

Christophe O Laux · Ecole Centrale Paris
We did exactly that, create a plasma in pure water vapor. We published
a first paper on the topic: Sainct, F.P., Lacoste, D.A., Kirkpatrick,
M.J., Odic, E., and Laux, C.O., Experimental study of nanosecond
repetitively pulsed discharges in water vapor, International Journal
of Plasma Environmental Science & Technology, vol. 6, no. 2, Sep.
2012. More publications should follow soon.
=========================================================

SPNAK! on the backpedaling bleating lying blither-blathering moron.
LOL

> That means, fakey, that once it's heated to the plasma
> phase, there are no longer any water molecules.

Awww, look at the kook backpedal. What were the originating molecules,
Backpedaling KookTard? Oh, that's right, they were water, so yeah,
water can be plasmized.

SPNAK!

> You just have a soup of H nuclei, O nuclei, and swarming electrons.
> No more water.  Just like i already told you.

Except you were *wrong*, as I proved. Water can be plasmized.

Some fucking idiot blither-blathered:
"Water has NO plasma phase, ergo no plasma temperature."

Water can be plasmized.

SPNAK!

> That's what "plasma" means, tardlet.

Backpedal much, Spankard? LOL

Thanks for admitting I was right when I said water could be plasmized,
Moron.

SPNAK!

> Please bleat & bray: ____________________________________

Moron. LOL

>>>>> What's the electronegativity of oxygen, Ersatzia?

>>>> Still trying to conflate the electronegativity of elemental oxygen 

>>> Still trying to deny the obvious?

>> Still demonstrating that you're a moron? LOL

> <snip obfuscating blither-blather>
> 
> C'mon, fakey.  Why can't you answer the question?
> It's a very simple question.

If it was "a very simple question", you'd not be begging your Usenet
Lord and Master for the answer.

SPNAK!

> Everyone knows that you know the answer.

Of course I know the answer. I'm a genius who can easily grasp
advanced concepts, whereas you're a backpedaling bleatfarting
blither-blathering moron who can't grasp that water can be plasmized.
LOL

> The electronegativity of oxygen is _.__.

Aren't you the moron who k'lames that elemental oxygen has a constant 
electronegativity?

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronegativity>
=================================================
As it is usually calculated, electronegativity is not a property of an 
atom alone, but rather a property of an atom in a molecule.[4]

The property of electronegativity of an atom in a molecule is 
different from the electrode potential of the element, which depends 
on the difference in free energy of the element in its standard state 
and in ionic solution, and it is different from the ionization 
potential of the atom, and from its electron affinity; although it is 
related to these properties in a general way.

It has been found possible to formulate an electronegativity scale of 
the elements by the analysis of the values of delta and delta_umlaut 
given by the single-bond energies. In Table 3-6 values of delta_umlaut 
are listed for the bonds between nonmetallic atoms whose energies are 
given in Table 3-4. These are obtained in the same ways as those in 
Table 3-3. It is seen on inspection that the valued of delta_umlaut do 
not satisfy an additivity relation; they cannot be represented as 
differences of terms characteristic of the two atoms in a bond. 
However, the square roots of the delta_umlaut values do satisfy 
approximately a relation of this sort.

The method just described for formulating the electronegativity scale 
cannot be used for the remaining elements in general because of a lack 
of knowledge of enthalpies of formation of their compounds as gases 
and of the values of single-bond energies for the elements themselves.

Except for nitrogen and oxygen, which are discussed below, the 
elements in their standard states do not differ much in energy from 
states involving normal single covalent bonds between the atoms.

It is the unusual stability of multiple bonds for oxygen and nitrogen, 
stabilizing their normal states, that often leads to negative values 
of the enthalpy of formation of substances.

By the use of Equation 3-13 the difference in electronegativity of two 
elements can be calculated from the enthalpy of formation of the 
compounds formed by them.

Table 3-8: The values given in the table refer to the common oxidation 
states of the elements. For some elements variation of the 
electronegativity with oxidation number is observed.

[4] Pauling, Linus (1960). Nature of the Chemical Bond. Cornell 
University Press. pp. 88–107. ISBN 0-8014-0333-2.
=================================================

How do you oxidize *oxygen* except with fluorine to figure out its 
enthalpy of formation and thus its exact electronegativity, you 
fecking *moron*? *No* *one* wants to formulate FOOF (O2F2) to find out 
the exact oxidation state of elemental oxygen. You know, FOOF, 
Lucifer's Gas? That shit makes *ice* explode. It makes asbestos 
*burn*. It reacts with gold. Hit it with a CO2 fire extinguisher, you 
just make it mad.

So... your bleating about oxygen's electronegativity means you're 
bleating about an approximation, Moron. Even Pauling himself admitted 
that elemental electronegativity is an approximation, and thus isn't 
all that accurate, which is why he only presented them with single 
decimal accuracy. Moron.

Further, oxygen's affinity for itself in forming multiple bonds means 
that for a lot of substances, the enthalpy of formation is negative, 
thus the electronegativity is dependent upon which substance oxygen is 
interacting with and whatever other factors contribute to or detract 
from that interaction.

Nitrogen is the same way, nitrogen trichloride isn't unstable because 
of weak N-Cl bonds, but rather because nitrogen is constantly trying 
to reform into triple-bonded N2, with a negative enthalpy of formation 
and thus exothermic reaction of nitrogen trichloride.

You know, Linus Pauling... the guy who developed the first accurate 
electronegativity scale for molecules... you think *he* might know a 
bit more about electronegativity than a moronic bleatfarting retard 
like you, Shiny Tinfoil Brain? LOL

SPNAK!

> Are you scared, fakey?

Are you stupid, Shiny Tinfoil Brain? Yeah... yeah you are. LOL

> Did you print out the cool periodic table yet, fakey?

Did you buy a new brain yet, Shiny Tinfoil Brain?

SPNAK!

-- 

Shiny Tinfoil Brain (aka Bite My Shiny Metal Ass) didn't know:
=====================================
The Euler equation is a subset of equations known as the Euler-Fourier
Formulas, thus that a sinewave is a transformation of a circle (which
should have been intuitive, given that generators *rotate* to create
*sinusoids*);

That cross correlation is used with Fourier transforms;

That superposition is the same as wave interference;

That wave interference works the same for standing or traveling waves;

That RMS and peak-to-peak voltage are two different things;

That RMS isn't a DC voltage;

That 170 volt peak, 120.208 volt RMS L-N 3-phase service gives 208.207
volts RMS L-L;

That 4444525800 != 4400000000 != 1;

The difference between frequency and period of a sinewave;

That there's no difference between 'i' and 'j' in electrical
engineering, physics and control systems engineering;

What a positive or negative vector is;

That the vector sum of 3-phase AC constitutes a closed loop per
Kirchhoff's Voltage Law, thus that the three phases sum to zero;

That "mnemonic" is not spelled "mneumonic";

That his claim: "Water is tetrahedral. It actually has 4 poles, 2
positive and 2 negative." is nonsense from a blathering moron.

That water does not have negative poles. The oxygen has an
electronegativity of 8+, the hydrogens 1+.

That the term "electronegativity" denotes a *positive* nucleal charge.

What the definition of the word "equivalent" is.

That digital voltmeters do indeed take discrete instantaneous samples.

That the atmosphere (and the gaseous phase water within the
atmosphere) does indeed follow the Ideal Gas Law to within 1.337842%
margin of error *worst* *case* at 70 F.

That the square of the instantaneous sample of peak-to-peak voltage of
a peak-voltage sinewave is an offset sinewave, thus its average does
*not* equal zero, as Shiny Tinfoil Brain k'lames.

That the Ideal Gas Law does not require an ideal gas because it takes
into account molar volume.

That "within 10% error" does not equal "10% error".

That water can be plasmized.

That atomic number does not equal effective nuclear charge.

That nuclear charge does not equal effective nuclear charge.

And the moron continues to demonstrate his inability to read a graph.
=====================================

SPNAK!

<snicker>

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