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Re: Mouse-trap lift

From LFS <laura@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk>
Newsgroups alt.usage.english
Subject Re: Mouse-trap lift
Date 2015-12-20 08:38 +0000
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On 16/12/2015 12:29, Whiskers wrote:
> On 2015-12-16, Robert Bannister <robban@clubtelco.com> wrote:
>> On 16/12/2015 06:23, Whiskers wrote:
>>
>>> I think that was a common arrangement in buildings put up when lifts
>>> were still a bit new-fangled; people didn't want to trust themselves
>>> inside opaque boxes hidden out of sight but felt more comfortable being
>>> able to see and be seen by anyone using the stairs.  I seem to recall
>>> the Marx Brothers exploiting the dramatic opportunities offered by the
>>> arrangement.
>>>
>>
>> That got me thinking about curious lift types. I had forgotten the name,
>> but DuckDuckGo tells me that /paternoster/ lifts are now banned. I have
>> certainly used a few in my time - all in factories - and I used to find
>> them scary, although people who worked there apparently didn't.
>
> Never had to use one, fortunately, but I've seen a miniature version
> used for moving parcels.  Wikipedia lists surviving examples and has a
> moving image showing the general principle.  Aston University have a
> movie of students using one there in the 1960s
> <http://www.aston.ac.uk/50/history/paternoster-lifts/>
>

Interesting: not a single woman appears in that clip.

I had to use a paternoster lift when working on the audit at GEC at 
Borehamwood in 1969. I was terrified to start with but once you got used 
to it it was very efficient. they were still being manufactured in 
Eastern Europe in the 1980s: a student of mine wrote a dissertation 
about them.

In a modern building on London Wall I recently encountered an unusual 
lift arrangement. You called the lift by pressing a screen which 
required you to choose the floor before boarding and there were no 
controls inside, other than an alarm button.

This is my favourite lift, in my favourite hotel:

http://www.metropolehotel.com/en/news/renovation-belle-epoque-lift

You need considerable strength to open the door when you reach your 
floor and I have occasionally had to ask a passing person to help from 
the outside. And it's very easy to get your fingers caught in the ironwork.

-- 
Laura (emulate St George for email)

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Mouse-trap lift John Ritson <j.ritson@hotmail.co.uk> - 2015-12-15 15:31 +0000
  Re: Mouse-trap lift Horace LaBadie <hlabadie@nospam.com> - 2015-12-15 11:02 -0500
    Re: Mouse-trap lift Horace LaBadie <hlabadie@nospam.com> - 2015-12-15 11:40 -0500
    Re: Mouse-trap lift "Peter Duncanson [BrE]" <mail@peterduncanson.net> - 2015-12-20 00:58 +0000
  Re: Mouse-trap lift "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-15 13:32 -0800
    Re: Mouse-trap lift LFS <laura@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> - 2015-12-20 08:38 +0000
      Re: Mouse-trap lift Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2015-12-20 13:25 +0000
        Re: Mouse-trap lift LFS <laura@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> - 2015-12-20 13:38 +0000
          Re: Mouse-trap lift Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2015-12-20 14:44 +0000
            Re: Mouse-trap lift LFS <laura@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> - 2015-12-20 16:06 +0000
              Re: Mouse-trap lift Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2015-12-20 18:29 +0000
          Re: Mouse-trap lift "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-12-20 22:17 +0000
            Re: Mouse-trap lift "Peter Duncanson [BrE]" <mail@peterduncanson.net> - 2015-12-20 23:37 +0000
              Re: Mouse-trap lift "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-12-21 21:47 +0000
                Re: Mouse-trap lift richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2015-12-21 23:08 +0000
                Re: Mouse-trap lift LFS <laura@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> - 2015-12-21 23:22 +0000
                Re: Mouse-trap lift David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 15:57 -0800
                Re: Mouse-trap lift Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 20:09 -0500
                Re: Mouse-trap lift msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) - 2015-12-21 22:32 -0600
                Re: Mouse-trap lift Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2015-12-22 16:40 +1100
                Re: Mouse-trap lift Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 08:03 -0500
                Re: Mouse-trap lift "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-12-23 02:26 +0000
                Re: Mouse-trap lift Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 23:26 -0500
                Re: Mouse-trap lift "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-12-25 18:59 +0000
                Re: Mouse-trap lift Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2015-12-28 01:20 -0800
                Re: Mouse-trap lift spuorgelgoog@gowanhill.com - 2015-12-23 14:55 -0800
                Re: Mouse-trap lift charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> - 2015-12-24 08:00 +0000
                Re: Mouse-trap lift "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-12-25 18:36 +0000
                Re: Mouse-trap lift Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-12-25 23:22 +0000
                Re: Mouse-trap lift charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> - 2015-12-26 10:40 +0000
                Re: Mouse-trap lift Charles Bishop <ctbishop@earthlink.net> - 2015-12-22 20:53 -0800
                Re: Mouse-trap lift LFS <laura@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> - 2015-12-23 07:47 +0000
                Re: Mouse-trap lift "Peter Duncanson [BrE]" <mail@peterduncanson.net> - 2015-12-23 12:54 +0000
                Re: Mouse-trap lift bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2015-12-23 10:46 -0800
                Re: Mouse-trap lift Charles Bishop <ctbishop@earthlink.net> - 2015-12-24 08:40 -0800
                Re: Mouse-trap lift Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2015-12-25 11:52 +1100
                Re: Mouse-trap lift bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2015-12-24 23:34 -0800
                Re: Mouse-trap lift Charles Bishop <ctbishop@earthlink.net> - 2015-12-25 07:41 -0800
                Re: Mouse-trap lift "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-12-26 22:40 +0000
                Re: Mouse-trap lift Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2015-12-28 20:46 +1100
                Re: Mouse-trap lift Charles Bishop <ctbishop@earthlink.net> - 2015-12-29 19:07 -0800
                Re: Mouse-trap lift Will Parsons <varro@nodomain.invalid> - 2015-12-30 03:48 +0000
                Re: Mouse-trap lift Charles Bishop <ctbishop@earthlink.net> - 2015-12-30 10:41 -0800
                Re: Mouse-trap lift Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2015-12-30 16:38 +1100
                Re: Mouse-trap lift Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-12-30 16:30 +0000
                Re: Mouse-trap lift "Peter Duncanson [BrE]" <mail@peterduncanson.net> - 2015-12-27 13:08 +0000
                Re: Mouse-trap lift Charles Bishop <ctbishop@earthlink.net> - 2015-12-27 07:06 -0800
                Re: Mouse-trap lift "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-21 20:52 -0800
                Re: Mouse-trap lift "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-21 20:47 -0800
                Re: Mouse-trap lift Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2015-12-22 07:24 +0200
                Re: Mouse-trap lift "Peter Duncanson [BrE]" <mail@peterduncanson.net> - 2015-12-22 10:53 +0000
                Re: Mouse-trap lift charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> - 2015-12-22 11:08 +0000
                Re: Mouse-trap lift "Peter Duncanson [BrE]" <mail@peterduncanson.net> - 2015-12-22 12:31 +0000
                Re: Mouse-trap lift "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-12-23 02:31 +0000
                Re: Mouse-trap lift spuorgelgoog@gowanhill.com - 2015-12-23 14:47 -0800
                Re: Mouse-trap lift Robin Bignall <docrobin@ntlworld.com> - 2015-12-23 23:08 +0000
                Re: Mouse-trap lift bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2015-12-23 15:29 -0800
                Re: Mouse-trap lift Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 18:38 -0500
                Re: Mouse-trap lift "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> - 2015-12-23 20:14 -0800
                Re: Mouse-trap lift spuorgelgoog@gowanhill.com - 2015-12-25 15:25 -0800
                Re: Mouse-trap lift "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-12-25 19:03 +0000
                Re: Mouse-trap lift LFS <laura@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> - 2015-12-25 19:27 +0000
                Re: Mouse-trap lift Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2015-12-25 14:34 -0500
                Re: Mouse-trap lift Jerry Friedman <jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-25 11:43 -0800
                Re: Mouse-trap lift Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2015-12-25 19:30 -0500
                Re: Mouse-trap lift Jerry Friedman <jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-27 19:39 -0800
                Re: Mouse-trap lift Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2015-12-28 01:32 -0800
                Re: Mouse-trap lift "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-12-28 21:49 +0000
                Re: Mouse-trap lift "Peter Duncanson [BrE]" <mail@peterduncanson.net> - 2015-12-29 12:24 +0000
                Re: Mouse-trap lift spuorgelgoog@gowanhill.com - 2015-12-25 15:23 -0800
                Re: Mouse-trap lift Janet <nobody@home.org> - 2015-12-26 01:07 +0000
                Re: Mouse-trap lift Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2015-12-25 20:38 -0500
                Re: Mouse-trap lift "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-12-26 22:57 +0000
                Re: Mouse-trap lift Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 18:11 -0500
                Re: Mouse-trap lift GordonD <g.davie@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-27 11:02 +0000
                Re: Mouse-trap lift bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2015-12-27 11:55 -0800
                Re: Mouse-trap lift Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-12-26 04:28 +0000
                Re: Mouse-trap lift RH Draney <dadoctah@cox.net> - 2015-12-25 19:34 -0700
                Re: Mouse-trap lift Charles Bishop <ctbishop@earthlink.net> - 2015-12-26 09:49 -0800
                Re: Mouse-trap lift Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2015-12-27 12:34 +0100
                Re: Mouse-trap lift Katy Jennison <katy@spamtrap.kjennison.com> - 2015-12-21 23:55 +0000
                Re: Mouse-trap lift John Ritson <j.ritson@hotmail.co.uk> - 2015-12-22 09:25 +0000
                Re: Mouse-trap lift Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2015-12-22 11:47 +0200
                Re: Mouse-trap lift RH Draney <dadoctah@cox.net> - 2015-12-22 03:00 -0700
                Re: Mouse-trap lift Katy Jennison <katy@spamtrap.kjennison.com> - 2015-12-22 12:13 +0000
        Re: Mouse-trap lift Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2015-12-20 13:23 -0500
          Re: Mouse-trap lift Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2015-12-20 18:48 +0000
        Re: Mouse-trap lift Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> - 2015-12-21 09:01 +1100
          Re: Mouse-trap lift Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2015-12-20 23:06 +0000
      Re: Mouse-trap lift "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-12-20 22:12 +0000
        Re: Mouse-trap lift msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) - 2015-12-21 02:32 -0600
  Re: Mouse-trap lift Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2015-12-16 08:06 +0200

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