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Re: Advantage, Linux

From Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Advantage, Linux
Date 2015-11-18 15:16 +0000
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On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 09:54:57 -0500, Slimer wrote:

> On 2015-11-18 9:44 AM, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 09:38:29 -0500, Slimer wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2015-11-18 6:09 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>> Run aptitude, refresh the package status, see over 1 Gb of updates
>>>> (this is Debian unstable), start the timer....
>>>>
>>>> .... 11 minutes later, update done.
>>>>
>>>> I shudder to think how long this update would take on <laughing>
>>>> Windows.
>>>
>>> My wife received a new laptop yesterday, a Yoga Pro 3 with Windows 10.
>>> I performed the updates for her - one of which was major - and it was
>>> done in about 15 minutes.
>>>
>>> So what, exactly, is the problem?
>> 
>> She must not have gotten this last update yet.  It is about 4gb from
>> what I read.  I got it and it took a little over an hour if I count the
>> download time, and actual update time took about 1/2 hour.
> 
> That might have been what it was to be honest. The one issue that I did
> face was that it almost refused to install. Windows was aware that an
> update needed to be installed but refused to apply it for whatever
> reason. I managed to force it to update by using a little trick I came
> up with (remove IE and WMP, restart, reinstall, restart, apply updates).
> I'm not too sure what caused the loop on the brand new machine but it
> wasn't a big deal either way.
>
I've seen that on numerous occasions when I was bouncing between W8.1/W10 
Preview a bit back.  The other trick that works is to not worry about it 
and it will complete them all over a few days.
 
>> Windows updates are slow, but most are done in the background with no
>> more than a restart when it notifies.
> 
> Absolutely. I don't even notice them on my laptop at all. It is a
> transparent process which, to date on my computer, hasn't caused a
> single issue. Additionally, it ensures that I have a constantly secure
> machine which gives me no reason to install an anti-virus of any kind.
> 
You'll notice this latest one.  It literally looks like a new/upgrade 
install of w10.

>> BTW, mine was on a Yoga 2 Pro, i7/8GB/256Gb machine with a 100/10
>> internet speed.
> 
> I have 50/50 on my side, I'm not sure what took so much time for you. I
> like the Yoga Pro 3 so far though: I was worried that the hinges holding
> the LED panel to the computer would easily break (which is what happened
> with my wife's previous Lenovo) but they fixed the problem by using
> metal hinges similar to what the Microsoft SurfaceBook uses. It's a
> nifty little machine either way but its specs are lower than yours are
> (it uses a Core M running at 1.2GHz).

You don't have the latest one I think, which explains the difference.

Originally I bought a Yoga 3 Pro because it was on sale at the time, 
cheaper than the Yoga 2 Por, it was lighter and I just liked it better, 
or so I thought.  But the performance was off-putting for me, just a 
little too laggy, so I took it back and got the Yoga 2 Pro.

The hinges on the Yoga 3 Pro are a slick design and I suspect they will 
hold up quite well over time.

IMO, while the Core M machines are becoming more prevalent these days, 
they are a bit disappointing.  The idea was that you'd get this very 
reasonable performance with fanless designs and longer battery life.  
Well they have improved the performance quite a bit which is good.  But 
battery life hasn't been much better though it is improved over some of 
the earlier designs.



-- 
Lloyd

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Advantage, Linux Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-18 06:09 -0500
  Re: Advantage, Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-18 12:01 +0000
    Re: Advantage, Linux "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-18 07:32 -0500
      Re: Advantage, Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-18 12:51 +0000
        Re: Advantage, Linux "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-18 08:01 -0500
          Re: Advantage, Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-18 14:06 +0000
            Re: Advantage, Linux Justin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu> - 2015-11-18 16:07 -0500
              Re: Advantage, Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-19 10:34 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux Justin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu> - 2015-11-19 09:19 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-19 10:42 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-19 09:02 -0700
                Re: Advantage, Linux Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-19 17:08 +0100
                Re: Advantage, Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-19 09:19 -0700
                Re: Advantage, Linux Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-19 17:55 +0100
                Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-19 18:39 +0100
                Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-19 13:20 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-19 12:38 -0600
                Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-19 14:43 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-19 16:06 -0700
                Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-20 00:46 +0100
                Re: Advantage, Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-19 16:52 -0700
                Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-20 01:01 +0100
                Re: Advantage, Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-19 17:06 -0700
                Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-20 01:15 +0100
                Re: Advantage, Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-19 18:57 -0700
                Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-20 08:13 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-20 06:48 -0600
                Re: Advantage, Linux JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-20 14:05 -0600
                Re: Advantage, Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-20 13:53 -0700
                Re: Advantage, Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-20 17:14 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-19 12:04 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-19 16:37 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-19 08:54 -0800
                Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-19 13:18 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-19 12:06 -0700
                Re: Advantage, Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-20 09:22 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-20 11:52 +0100
                Re: Advantage, Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-20 08:41 -0700
                Re: Advantage, Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-20 17:19 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-20 09:09 -0700
                Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-20 17:14 +0100
                Re: Advantage, Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-20 09:33 -0700
                Re: Advantage, Linux Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-20 08:46 -0800
                Re: Advantage, Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-20 17:22 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-20 08:42 -0800
                Re: Advantage, Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-20 17:24 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-20 10:34 -0700
                Re: Advantage, Linux Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-20 11:31 -0800
                Re: Advantage, Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-23 09:30 +0000
          My home folder is "C:\\__", but I don't let Windows know that. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-18 14:19 -0800
            Re: My home folder is "C:\\__", but I don't let Windows know that. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-22 08:10 -0500
              99.99% of the time, mental health can't be bought. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-22 05:46 -0800
                Re: 99.99% of the time, mental health can't be bought. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-22 08:54 -0500
                Some are "poor" because they do _not_ stress over money. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-22 06:38 -0800
                Re: Some are "poor" because they do _not_ stress over money. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-22 10:04 -0500
                I have a vasectomy, I'm stress free. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-22 07:35 -0800
                Re: I have a vasectomy, I'm stress free. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-22 10:44 -0500
                How many wives/kids do you have ? Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-22 15:29 -0800
                Re: How many wives/kids do you have ? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-23 03:15 -0500
      Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-18 09:43 -0500
    Re: Advantage, Linux DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-18 12:48 -0500
      Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-18 13:04 -0500
        Re: Advantage, Linux DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-18 13:10 -0500
          Re: Advantage, Linux owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 18:22 +0000
            Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-18 13:23 -0500
              Re: Advantage, Linux Justin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu> - 2015-11-18 14:04 -0500
              Re: Advantage, Linux DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-22 17:04 -0500
            Re: Advantage, Linux DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-18 17:18 -0500
              Re: Advantage, Linux owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 23:47 +0000
          Re: Advantage, Linux Justin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu> - 2015-11-18 13:56 -0500
            Re: Advantage, Linux owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 19:13 +0000
              Re: Advantage, Linux Justin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu> - 2015-11-18 15:56 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 21:14 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux Justin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu> - 2015-11-18 19:03 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-19 00:59 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux Justin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu> - 2015-11-19 09:51 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-19 19:32 +0000
              Re: Advantage, Linux DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-18 17:20 -0500
              Re: Advantage, Linux DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-18 17:26 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 23:50 +0000
            Re: Advantage, Linux JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-18 14:06 -0600
              Re: Advantage, Linux Justin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu> - 2015-11-18 16:04 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-18 23:02 +0100
                Re: Advantage, Linux JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-18 19:12 -0600
                Re: Advantage, Linux Justin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu> - 2015-11-19 09:17 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-19 15:38 +0100
                Re: Advantage, Linux Justin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu> - 2015-11-19 09:50 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-19 10:26 -0600
                Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-19 18:10 +0100
                Re: Advantage, Linux Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-19 15:41 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-19 15:15 -0600
                Re: Advantage, Linux owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-19 22:54 +0000
            Re: Advantage, Linux Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-18 15:51 -0500
            Re: Advantage, Linux "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-18 20:52 -0500
  Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-18 09:38 -0500
    Re: Advantage, Linux Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 14:44 +0000
      Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-18 09:54 -0500
        Re: Advantage, Linux Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 15:16 +0000
          Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-18 11:23 -0500
    Re: Advantage, Linux DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-18 13:07 -0500
      Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-18 13:22 -0500
    Re: Advantage, Linux Marti van Lin <ml2mst@dontevenbother.invalid> - 2015-11-19 18:54 +0100
      Re: Advantage, Linux Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-19 15:47 -0500
        Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-19 18:01 -0500
  Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-18 15:15 +0000
    Re: Advantage, Linux Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-18 16:27 +0100
      Re: Advantage, Linux Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-18 10:41 -0500
        Re: Advantage, Linux Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-18 16:45 +0100
          Re: Advantage, Linux Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 15:51 +0000
          Re: Advantage, Linux Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-18 15:48 -0500
            Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-18 23:01 +0100
              Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-19 14:18 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-19 15:37 +0100
                Re: Advantage, Linux Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2015-11-19 08:47 -0600
                Re: Advantage, Linux Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-19 07:40 -0800
                Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-19 22:59 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-20 00:43 +0100
                Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-20 10:05 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-20 11:50 +0100
                Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-20 13:09 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-20 09:30 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-20 13:58 -0600
                Re: Advantage, Linux Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-20 15:41 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 02:49 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-21 09:31 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-21 22:17 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-22 09:07 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-20 08:09 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-20 13:32 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-20 07:43 -0600
                Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-20 08:58 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-20 08:57 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2015-11-20 08:15 -0600
                Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-20 12:51 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-20 14:01 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 02:48 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-21 09:30 +0000
            Re: Advantage, Linux JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-18 19:11 -0600
            Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-19 14:19 +0000
        Re: Advantage, Linux Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 15:50 +0000
          Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-18 11:25 -0500
        Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-19 08:21 +0000
          Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-19 08:18 -0500
      Re: Advantage, Linux Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 15:49 +0000
        Re: Advantage, Linux Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-18 16:51 +0100
          Re: Advantage, Linux Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 15:53 +0000
      Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-19 08:19 +0000
  Re: Advantage, Linux DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-18 12:49 -0500

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