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Re: MailForge dead

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In article <1lflw70.1mg6bmm1tdbed4N%peter@cara.demon.co.uk>,
 peter@cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote:

> David Morrison <davidmor@excite.com> wrote:
> 
> > I have been using Apple Mail in parallel with Eudora in a Parallels 
> > virtual machine (Snow Leopard). Mail is usable like this, but 
> > frustrating in so many ways.
> 
> I'm doing that- running Mail, but with my historical Eudora
> installation, which I use less and less as time goes by. I can't see any
> real problems with Mail (using POP3). It works very well. As a matter of
> interest, what don't you like about Mail?

Firstly, I do not like two or three pane interfaces. I prefer separate 
windows. I have about 20 e-mail accounts. In Mail, I have 20 accounts in 
the sidebar. To see a folder for an account, I have to scroll the 
sidebar to the account, then click on the triangle to show the folders 
for the account. If it is a gmail account, I have to click on the 
triangle next to [Gmail] and scroll down until I get the folder I want. 
(This is IMAP.) Then if I hide the account, it closes all those things 
again and I have to open them all again next time.

And I have to do this to manually move a message into a folder. Compare 
this to Eudora's Transfer menu, which is hierarchical and allows any 
folder ot be reached in just a couple of clikcs and no scrolling.

I liked how Eudora opened the mailbox window when any new messages were 
filtered into it. So you could have lots of unread messages in it 
without being bothered. With Mail, you get the number of unread 
messages, which doesn't tell you if there were any new ones in the last 
check.

I do not like how Mail keeps setting accounts offline if there has been 
any problem. Clients are constantly ringing me to ask why they cannot 
send mail. It's because Mail has set the account offline and refuses to 
do anything until you manually put it back online.

Mail has actually got worse in the last few iterations, I feel. Some 
tasks have become even more cumbersome than they used to be.

I might try Gyaz as Faith suggested. Even Thunderbird I suppose as that 
is more of an old school mail client.

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MailForge dead Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-16 10:13 +0000
  Re: MailForge dead David Morrison <davidmor@excite.com> - 2014-01-17 09:50 +1100
    Re: MailForge dead Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-17 00:19 +0000
      Re: MailForge dead David Morrison <davidmor@excite.com> - 2014-01-18 11:37 +1100
      Re: MailForge dead "R. Millstein" <usenet@spamaway.rlm.net> - 2014-01-18 15:06 -0800
        Re: MailForge dead Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-18 23:43 +0000
          Re: MailForge dead "R. Millstein" <usenet@spamaway.rlm.net> - 2014-01-18 16:45 -0800
          Re: MailForge dead Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-01-18 20:31 -0500
            Re: MailForge dead "R. Millstein" <usenet@spamaway.rlm.net> - 2014-01-19 09:33 -0800
          Re: MailForge dead David Morrison <davidmor@excite.com> - 2014-01-20 15:45 +1100
            Re: MailForge dead Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-22 08:56 +0000
              Re: MailForge dead David Morrison <davidmor@excite.com> - 2014-01-23 01:42 +1100
                Re: MailForge dead Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-22 15:23 +0000
                Re: MailForge dead David Morrison <davidmor@excite.com> - 2014-01-23 09:56 +1100
                Re: MailForge dead Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-22 16:26 +0000
                Re: MailForge dead David Morrison <davidmor@excite.com> - 2014-01-23 10:02 +1100
                Re: MailForge dead Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-22 23:19 +0000
              Re: MailForge dead richgr@panix.com (Rich Greenberg) - 2014-01-23 20:03 +0000
              Re: MailForge dead Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-23 18:19 -0500
              Re: MailForge dead David Morrison <davidmor@excite.com> - 2014-06-18 15:55 +1000
                Re: MailForge dead Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-06-18 19:53 -0700
                Re: MailForge dead Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-19 02:58 +0000
                Re: MailForge dead Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-19 03:14 +0000
                Re: MailForge dead Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-06-18 22:45 -0700
                Re: MailForge dead billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-19 10:34 +0000
                Re: MailForge dead Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-06-19 21:18 -0700
                Re: MailForge dead Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-20 16:13 +0000
                Re: MailForge dead Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-19 16:02 +0000
                Re: MailForge dead Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-06-19 21:20 -0700
                Re: MailForge dead Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-20 16:15 +0000
      Re: MailForge dead cvb@compuserve.com - 2014-01-31 00:56 -0800
        Re: MailForge dead Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-31 10:08 +0000
    Re: MailForge dead peter@cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) - 2014-01-17 07:23 +0000
      Re: MailForge dead David Morrison <davidmor@excite.com> - 2014-01-18 11:50 +1100
        Re: MailForge dead David Morrison <davidmor@excite.com> - 2014-01-18 11:52 +1100
        Re: MailForge dead peter@cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) - 2014-01-19 10:39 +0000
        Re: MailForge dead kmorgan@spamcop.net (Kathy Morgan) - 2014-01-21 13:57 -0900
      Re: MailForge dead kmorgan@spamcop.net (Kathy Morgan) - 2014-01-21 13:57 -0900
      Re: MailForge dead Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-01-31 10:33 +0100
        Re: MailForge dead Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-31 12:37 +0000
          Re: MailForge dead Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-01-31 21:16 +0100
            Re: MailForge dead Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-01 17:02 +0000
              Re: MailForge dead Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-02 00:12 +0100
    Re: MailForge dead dont.spam.usenet@googlemail.com (Hauke Fath) - 2014-01-17 14:37 +0100
      Re: MailForge dead Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-17 15:21 +0000
        Re: MailForge dead dont.spam.usenet@googlemail.com (Hauke Fath) - 2014-01-17 19:03 +0100
          Re: MailForge dead Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-17 18:59 +0000
            Re: MailForge dead dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2014-01-18 10:48 +0000
              Re: MailForge dead Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-18 13:12 -0800
                Re: MailForge dead nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-18 16:45 -0500
                Re: MailForge dead snipe@spambin.fsnet.co.uk (Sn!pe) - 2014-02-03 22:46 +0000

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