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Re: Recommendation for a text

From Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201203.rodent.frell.theremailer.net>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Recommendation for a text
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Date 2012-03-07 10:29 +0100
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Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On 03/ 7/12 12:53 PM, Patrick Scheible wrote:
> > jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) writes:
> >
> >> In article<17597176.384.1330953683846.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynca15>,
> >> John Coleman<jcoleman@franciscan.edu>  wrote:
> >>> Also - I am open to ideas about projects for the students to work on.
> >>
> >> The first 'major' programs i wrote for both BASIC and Pascal were
> >> adventure games.  This is how i learned that Pascal sucks.
> >
> > Pascal sucks for major programs because it was designed for teaching,
> > not for major programs.

The Wirth Pascal sucks because it's from Wirth, it's a teaching language,
it's a one pass compiler, and it is unsuited for doing any serious work
because of critical, built-in limitations. Kernighan (or was it Ritchie?)
wrote a paper that nails the coffin shut on the original without much effort.

> The first "major program" I worked on was written in DEC 
> MicroPower/Pascal on a PDP11.  A surprisingly good environment for its 
> day.  So with the right support, Pascal isn't too bad.

Extensions to Pascal have made it perfectly usable, depending on which
version you use. You can't say "Pascal is" or "Pascal isn't" anything until
you specify which implementation of Pascal you are talking about.

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Recommendation for a text John Coleman <jcoleman@franciscan.edu> - 2012-03-05 05:21 -0800
  Re: Recommendation for a text jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2012-03-05 15:27 +0100
    Re: Recommendation for a text Kleuske <kleuske@nowhere.net> - 2012-03-05 20:09 +0000
      Re: Recommendation for a text John Coleman <jcoleman@franciscan.edu> - 2012-03-05 12:29 -0800
      Re: Recommendation for a text ArifulHossain tuhin <etothepowerpi@gmail.com> - 2012-03-07 06:19 -0800
    Re: Recommendation for a text John Coleman <jcoleman@franciscan.edu> - 2012-03-05 12:37 -0800
      Re: Recommendation for a text "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-03-05 21:33 +0000
  Re: Recommendation for a text John Coleman <jcoleman@franciscan.edu> - 2012-03-05 06:52 -0800
    Re: Recommendation for a text Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-06 10:50 +1300
      Re: Recommendation for a text jgharston <jgh@arcade.demon.co.uk> - 2012-03-06 09:43 -0800
        Re: Recommendation for a text China Blue Water Navy <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-06 10:58 -0800
        Re: Recommendation for a text nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-03-07 01:38 -0800
    Re: Recommendation for a text nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-03-06 04:28 -0800
  Re: Recommendation for a text Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-03-05 17:37 +0000
    Re: Recommendation for a text Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2012-03-05 18:15 +0000
    Re: Recommendation for a text Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2012-03-05 20:15 +0100
    Re: Recommendation for a text Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-06 10:55 +1300
  Re: Recommendation for a text Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-03-05 09:38 -0800
  Re: Recommendation for a text Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-03-05 09:43 -0800
    Re: Recommendation for a text John Coleman <jcoleman@franciscan.edu> - 2012-03-05 12:41 -0800
  Re: Recommendation for a text ImpalerCore <jadill33@gmail.com> - 2012-03-05 14:09 -0800
  Re: Recommendation for a text Hans Vlems <hvlems@freenet.de> - 2012-03-05 15:07 -0800
    Re: Recommendation for a text Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-03-07 22:27 +0000
      Re: Recommendation for a text JohnF <john@please.see.sig.for.email.com> - 2012-03-08 04:06 +0000
        Re: Recommendation for a text Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201203.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2012-03-08 13:09 +0100
        Re: Recommendation for a text Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-03-10 08:23 +0000
  Re: Recommendation for a text Gene <gene.ressler@gmail.com> - 2012-03-05 18:53 -0800
  Re: Recommendation for a text JohnF <john@please.see.sig.for.email.com> - 2012-03-06 04:45 +0000
  Re: Recommendation for a text Luca Forlizzi <luca.forlizzi@gmail.com> - 2012-03-06 00:11 -0800
    Re: Recommendation for a text "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2012-03-13 13:09 +0100
      Re: Recommendation for a text "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2012-03-13 13:20 +0100
  Re: Recommendation for a text jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-03-06 15:29 +0000
  Re: Recommendation for a text Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-03-06 19:44 +0000
  Re: Recommendation for a text "Charles Richmond" <netnews@aquaporin4.com> - 2012-03-06 14:03 -0600
  Re: Recommendation for a text jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-03-06 20:07 +0000
    Re: Recommendation for a text Patrick Scheible <kkt@zipcon.net> - 2012-03-06 15:53 -0800
      Re: Recommendation for a text Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-03-07 05:39 +0000
        Re: Recommendation for a text Patrick Scheible <kkt@zipcon.net> - 2012-03-07 09:54 -0800
      Re: Recommendation for a text Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-07 20:33 +1300
        Re: Recommendation for a text Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201203.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2012-03-07 10:29 +0100
          Re: Recommendation for a text Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-03-07 11:12 -0800
  Re: Recommendation for a text Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-03-07 12:24 -0800

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