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Re: Medicating Childhood-An American Zombie Apocalypse

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups alt.conspiracy
Subject Re: Medicating Childhood-An American Zombie Apocalypse
Date 2015-09-29 02:35 +0200
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Am 28.09.2015 10:35, schrieb K Wills (Shill #3):

...
>>>
>>>        There is no such thing as the New World Order. Not yet, anyway.
>>> It is possible there will be such in the future.
>>>
>>>> A central institution seems to be the  so called 'Tavistock Institute',
>>>> where Sigmund Freud conducted his experiments on British soldiers.
>>>>
>>>> https://nwoobserver.wordpress.com/2009/10/22/tavistock-institute-the-best-kept-secret-in-america/
>>>>
>>>
>>>        Have you got anything credible? Using a k00k site for your
>>> evidence doesn't work.
>>>
>>>> So we have a relation of fraudulent, evil 'science', called
>>>> psycho..-something, created by this Austrian guy, while serving those Brits.
>>>>
>>>
>>>        The field of psychoanalysis is widely accepted.
>>
>>
>> I don't like Freud (or 'Freudians'), because I don't like his style of
>> therapy.
>>
>
>       Not liking it is fine, but that you don't like it does not make
> it fraudulent or evil.


So: what has Sigmund Freud done, actually, at the Tavistock Institute?

He was apparently director of this institute and that institute is 
regarded as 'mother of all evil' (or similar) among 'troofers'...

So Freud is a main person of critique, if you try to criticise this 
(apparent) 'NWO conspiracy'.

>> E.g. he put people on a sofa, covered with old carpets.
>>
>
>       Only one had a Persian rug on it. I've not seen anything to
> indicate people were allowed on the sofa.
>
>> I regard this as explicitly disgusting practise and do not understand,
>> why Freud did that.
>
>       Since his doing so is likely something you made up, you would
> have to understand. You will be the only one who can.


I'm certainly not an expert in psycho-analysis, but I thought, that is 
common knowledge, that Freud put rugs on these sofas, where he treated 
mental illnesses.

Maybe he didn't. But actually I have heard he did.

>>
>> He also used to 'sexualise' mental malfunctions, what I regard as plain
>> wrong.
>
>       And your expertise comes from..?

He wrote several books and I have read a few.

>>
>> The carpets are bad, because you cant hardly find a thing containing
>> more dirt than old carpets. And you simply don't don't lay down on such
>> pieces, unless they are carefully washed (after each use, of course).
>>
>
>       Since when?

That's my personal experience. Carpets, especially oriental rugs, are 
real 'dirt magnets'.

You don't get the dirt out with a vacuum cleaner, but need to wash the 
rugs. Modern machines can actually do this. Or you throw the rugs into 
the bath-tub.

What you see, that is a LOT of dirt, coming out of such a piece.

>> So Freud did in fact practise some sort of 'sex-voodoo' and called that
>> therapy.
>>
>
>       I eagerly await the opportunity to read the paper you will have
> written to explain this.

I certainly do not plan to write something about Freud (besides such 
posts here).

>>
>>>> The American branch apparently uses Ritalin (and similar drugs), to
>>>> sedate a significant part of the American youth.
>>>
>>>        For those children (it doesn't work on adults) who actually have
>>> hyperactivity, such medications work.
>>
>> In comparison to usual adults kids are always hyperactive. This is
>> 'relativity' and you should compare kids to other kids of that age, not
>> to adults.
>
>       It is very fortunate no one compares hyperactive children to
> adults then.
>
>>
>> So 'hyperactive' for a -say- boy of seven years, would be a least double
>> the activity than other boys of that age. And that would be
>> inconceivable fast for usual adults.
>>
>
>       Again, adults are not used for comparison.
>       I'd ask for evidence of your claim that they are, but you'll not
> offer any.


This stems from the article I have quoted in the OP.

Maybe it's all wrong and no such thing as overmedication of kids exists. 
But actually I have heard so from other sources and thought, it is 
common knowledge, that a quarter of the US-schoolkids are on Ritalin (or 
similar drugs).

>> But even this would  not be a fault or something to worry about.
>>
>> The opposite is something to worry: too low activity and too little energy.
>>
>
>       Being excessively lethargic would be a point of concern as well.
>
>>>> What do you want to hear about this?
>>>
>>>        The truth would be nice, but with you, that's rarely possible.
>>
>> I am not a person involved in medicine or psycho-somethings. So you may
>> have my opinions about various subjects, but I would not regard this as
>> 'truth'.
>>
>
>       Yet you always present your opinions, guesses and assumptions as
> established facts. Only when proved wrong do you claim they are not
> facts.


I claim, they are facts, since I think they are. But this doesn't 
necessarily mean, what I think is true.

So if you think, my claims are wrong, you say they are wrong, even if 
you don't know for certain.

Certainty is hard to achieve. In most cases it requires to make 
experiments yourself. And that's what I can't do.

So we have hearsay on both sides and do not really know, what is true 
and what is not.

Usually I would expect truth somewhere in the middle.


TH

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Medicating Childhood-An American Zombie Apocalypse Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-27 09:47 +0200
  Re: Medicating Childhood-An American Zombie Apocalypse "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-27 05:36 -0500
    Re: Medicating Childhood-An American Zombie Apocalypse Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-27 20:55 +0200
      Re: Medicating Childhood-An American Zombie Apocalypse "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-27 15:59 -0500
        Re: Medicating Childhood-An American Zombie Apocalypse Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-28 05:56 +0200
          Re: Medicating Childhood-An American Zombie Apocalypse "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-28 03:35 -0500
            Re: Medicating Childhood-An American Zombie Apocalypse Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-29 02:35 +0200
              Re: Medicating Childhood-An American Zombie Apocalypse "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 04:43 -0500
                Re: Medicating Childhood-An American Zombie Apocalypse Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-30 04:06 +0200
                Re: Medicating Childhood-An American Zombie Apocalypse "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-30 04:24 -0500
                Re: Medicating Childhood-An American Zombie Apocalypse Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-30 20:58 +0200
                Re: Medicating Childhood-An American Zombie Apocalypse Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-10-01 07:51 +0200
                Re: Medicating Childhood-An American Zombie Apocalypse "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-10-01 04:46 -0500
                Re: Medicating Childhood-An American Zombie Apocalypse Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-10-03 06:56 +0200
                Re: Medicating Childhood-An American Zombie Apocalypse "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 03:48 -0500
                Re: Medicating Childhood-An American Zombie Apocalypse Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-10-04 04:50 +0200
                Re: Medicating Childhood-An American Zombie Apocalypse "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-10-04 04:02 -0500
                Re: Medicating Childhood-An American Zombie Apocalypse Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-10-05 05:48 +0200
                Re: Medicating Childhood-An American Zombie Apocalypse "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-10-05 03:40 -0500
                Re: Medicating Childhood-An American Zombie Apocalypse Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-10-06 05:24 +0200
                Re: Medicating Childhood-An American Zombie Apocalypse "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-10-06 04:44 -0500
                Re: Medicating Childhood-An American Zombie Apocalypse Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-10-11 00:22 +0200
                Re: Medicating Childhood-An American Zombie Apocalypse "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 04:13 -0500
                Re: Medicating Childhood-An American Zombie Apocalypse Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-10-12 06:11 +0200
                Re: Medicating Childhood-An American Zombie Apocalypse "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 04:14 -0500

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