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Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy

From Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy
Date 2015-08-29 02:29 +0000
Message-ID <d4cjp1Fi5j3U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 21:24:52 -0500, Nobody wrote:

> On 8/25/2015 12:03 PM, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>> On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 09:31:34 -0500, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>
>>> On 2015-08-25, Neil <neil@myplaceofwork.com> wrote:
>>>> On 8/24/2015 9:21 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>> Nobody wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/24/2015 7:02 PM, A.M wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2015-08-24 7:05 PM, deep wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 16:48:23 -0400, "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For the paranoid Linux losers who believe that Microsoft is
>>>>>>>>> building a Death Star.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Microsoft isn't a hardware company.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're right, the Xbox, Xbox 360, Xbox One, Surface RT, Surface
>>>>>>> Pro,
>>>>>>> Surface RT 2, Surface Pro 2, Surface Pro 3, Surface 3, Mouse,
>>>>>>> Keyboard,
>>>>>>> Zune and Kinect don't exist.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you Linux losers ever right about _anything_ ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why are Linux users collectively responsible for that remark,
>>>>>> "Snit?"
>>>>>
>>>>> Microsoft built those?  In Redmond?  I thought they contracted the
>>>>> work for their hardware out.  They have chip fabs?  Milling
>>>>> machines?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm fairly certain Microsoft mostly just stamps their logo on that
>>>>> stuff. Could be wrong, though.
>>>>>
>>>> So, by those standards, Apple, HP, and most others in computer tech
>>>> also don't qualify as "hardware companies". One would be hard pressed
>>>> to find many items in their possession from companies that meet your
>>>> criteria.
>>>
>>>      Well, that quite often is the point of many of our counter
>>>      arguments
>>> regarding "Apple Quality". Apples and HP's are coming off of the same
>>> assembly lines in China with the same spare parts sourced from some
>>> other Chinese factory.
>>>
>> Which are bogus counter arguments.  Not all Chinese mfgs are equal, nor
>> are the items the mfg for the various companies.
> 
> How did you become qualified to assess Chinese manufacturers?  Why don't
> you detail just which Chinese companies build Apple's products and tell
> in precise detail what makes them better than the companies that build
> Dell's or HP's products?
> 
> I already know you can't meet the challenge I laid out above. Everything
> you write comes from your ass.
>
Lots of reviews and tear downs of various levels of computers/tablets/
phones are very good places to find out that information.

But in spite of you trying to play stupid, because you already knew that, 
isn't very original.  But then again, you haven't shown yourself to very 
bright about any subject so far.
 
> 
>>>      One wonders how long that can go on before the Chinese companies
>>>      manage
>>> to cut out the middle men.
>>
>> An idiot with no business sense might wonder, but the Chinese mfgs have
>> honed their mfgs skills to a fine point.  They can ramp up a new line
>> ready to go quicker than anybody for a price no one else can match.
> 
> You don't seem to comprehend what you responded to.
> 
>> Why would they want to jump into the low profit sales part with all its
>> support and other costs?
> 
> Jump into it?  They're already there!  Apple gets the big margins, not
> their Chinese lackeys.  But one day those lackeys will wake up...

Nope, the mfgs have found out how to make great money without having to 
put up with end users at all.  Make it, ship it with whatever label is 
needed on it, and the company that ordered the manufacturing gets to put 
up with all of that.

Damned smart move on their part imo.





-- 
Lloyd

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Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-08-24 16:48 -0400
  Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Paul <nospam@needed.com> - 2015-08-24 17:16 -0400
    Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Mandy Liefbowitz <mandyliefbowitz@the.port.side> - 2015-08-25 01:18 +0100
      Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Mandy Liefbowitz <mandyliefbowitz@the.port.side> - 2015-08-25 14:43 +0100
  Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy deep - 2015-08-24 17:05 -0600
    Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-08-24 20:02 -0400
      Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-24 19:47 -0500
        Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-08-24 21:21 -0400
          Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Tommy Troll <elkabong99@Itroll.org> - 2015-08-24 21:40 -0400
          Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 01:47 +0000
          Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Neil <neil@myplaceofwork.com> - 2015-08-25 09:42 -0400
            Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-25 10:07 -0400
            Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2015-08-25 10:53 -0400
            Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-08-25 09:31 -0500
              Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 17:03 +0000
                Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-25 13:12 -0400
                Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-08-25 17:16 -0400
                Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-25 21:54 -0400
                Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-25 19:13 -0700
                Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-08-26 09:15 -0400
                Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-28 21:24 -0500
                Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 02:29 +0000
            Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-08-25 17:05 -0400
            Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-08-30 19:18 -0400
              Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 17:39 -0700
                Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Godzilla <godzilla@lizardboss.invalid> - 2015-08-31 00:40 +0000
                Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-30 22:34 -0500
          Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2015-08-25 10:48 -0400
            Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Neil <neil@myplaceofwork.com> - 2015-08-25 12:45 -0400
              Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy pjp <pjpoirier_is_located@hotmail.com> - 2015-08-25 14:16 -0300
              Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2015-08-25 22:35 -0400
            Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-08-25 17:11 -0400
      Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Linux User <linux.user@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-25 01:53 +0100
    Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Mandy Liefbowitz <mandyliefbowitz@the.port.side> - 2015-08-25 01:09 +0100
      Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@kb.invalid> - 2015-08-24 17:37 -0700
        Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Mandy Liefbowitz <mandyliefbowitz@the.port.side> - 2015-08-25 15:05 +0100
    Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-08-24 21:19 -0400
      Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 01:47 +0000
        Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy mechanic <mechanic@example.net> - 2015-08-25 12:40 +0100
        Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-08-25 08:06 -0400
          Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy deep - 2015-08-25 21:01 -0600
            Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-08-25 22:22 -0600
            Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-26 06:49 -0500
              Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-08-26 10:11 -0400
            Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-08-26 09:16 -0400
              Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy deep - 2015-08-26 07:56 -0600
                Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-08-26 10:13 -0400
                Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-08-26 16:18 +0200
                Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-08-26 12:09 -0400
                Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-08-26 12:47 -0600
                Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy deep - 2015-08-27 09:29 -0600
                Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-08-27 17:38 +0200
                Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-26 10:41 -0500
                Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-08-26 12:11 -0400
                Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-08-26 12:48 -0600
                Just plonk the guy vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-26 16:58 +0000
                Re: Just plonk the guy Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-26 10:03 -0700
                Re: Just plonk the guy "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-08-26 15:02 -0400
                Re: Just plonk the guy Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-26 12:12 -0700
                Nomination for August KOTM vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-26 21:26 +0000
                Re: Nomination for August KOTM Gary Burnore <gburnore@panix.com> - 2015-08-28 19:59 +0000
                Re: Just plonk the guy GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-08-26 12:49 -0600
                Re: Just plonk the guy vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-26 19:03 +0000
                Re: Just plonk the guy JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-08-26 14:30 -0500
                Re: Just plonk the guy Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-26 13:23 -0700
                Re: Just plonk the guy GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-08-27 15:38 -0600
                Re: Just plonk the guy chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-27 07:04 -0500
                Re: Just plonk the guy GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-08-27 15:38 -0600
                Re: Just plonk the guy GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-08-28 13:13 -0600
                Re: Just plonk the guy GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-08-27 15:37 -0600
                Re: Just plonk the guy "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-08-26 15:00 -0400
                Re: Just plonk the guy vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-26 22:16 +0000
                Re: Just plonk the guy "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 15:37 -0700
                Re: Just plonk the guy Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-26 16:10 -0700
                Re: Just plonk the guy vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-27 08:33 +0000
              Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-31 21:09 -0500
              Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-01 12:12 +0200
                Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 09:57 -0700
                Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-01 14:43 -0400
                Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 12:18 -0700
                Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-01 21:44 +0200
                Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-01 20:30 -0400
                Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 18:04 -0700
                Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-02 08:24 +0200
                Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 23:48 -0700
                Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-02 09:26 +0200
                Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-02 05:12 -0700
                Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-02 10:44 -0400
                Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-02 08:01 -0700
                Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-02 09:17 -0400
                Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-02 07:02 -0700
                Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-01 20:28 -0400
    Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-08-25 22:18 -0600
    Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-30 22:39 -0500
  Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2015-08-25 19:11 +0200
    Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-08-25 17:13 -0400
  Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 00:07 +0800
    Re: Looking at Microsoft's Privacy Policy GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-08-26 12:50 -0600

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