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| From | Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.arch.embedded, comp.lang.forth |
| Subject | Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? |
| Followup-To | comp.arch.embedded, comp.lang.forth |
| Date | 2015-03-18 12:37 +0000 |
| Organization | Hidecs Consultancy |
| Message-ID | <cmt9rvF4692U2@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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Cross-posted to 2 groups.
Followups directed to: comp.arch.embedded, comp.lang.forth
rickman wrote: [%X] >> The real driver for wanting to do this as a scripting language is to make >> it easy for the user to customize. I'm imagining that some users won't >> want to touch the customization with a 10 foot pole, some will be happy >> to customize a button or two, some will get their feet wet and then call >> us, and some will go whole hog with the thing, and do entire systems >> without us even knowing it's going on. > > I think what you are describing is Forth. There are two commercial > vendors, MPE and Forth Inc. I know the MPE license allows you to embed > the "interpreter" into your product for the customer to use. There are > also open source Forths around, but with varying levels of embeddability > and support. One is Mecrisp which is available for a few of the many > ARM processors around and the TMS430 I believe. There are many others. > > Forth can be idiot simple to use. The assumption is it has a serial > terminal for I/O or something much like it. I/O can be redirected > from/to files or anything else by using deferred words. It can run on > the bare metal or under an OS. You can give as much power to your > customer as you think they can handle or as little as you think is wise. > > I've cross posted this to the forth group to get input from some of the > regulars there. > > Oh, about the "file system". If you are happy with no file system at > all, Forth can treat your storage as "blocks" of 1 KB and no real files > at all. You can't get much simpler than that. Sometimes don't you wish Usenet had a "Like" button? MPE's VxfForth is probably best for most of the platforms you are likely to be dealing with these days. I do recall suggesting Forth earlier in this thread. You really can design the script language you want and make it seem quite natural to the user. -- ******************************************************************** Paul E. Bennett IEng MIET.....<email://Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> Forth based HIDECS Consultancy.............<http://www.hidecs.co.uk> Mob: +44 (0)7811-639972 Tel: +44 (0)1392-426688 Going Forth Safely ..... EBA. www.electric-boat-association.org.uk.. ********************************************************************
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Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Tim Wescott <seemywebsite@myfooter.really> - 2015-03-13 16:27 -0500
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-13 15:03 -0700
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Tim Wescott <seemywebsite@myfooter.really> - 2015-03-13 19:04 -0500
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-03-18 02:34 -0400
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2015-03-18 12:37 +0000
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Tim Wescott <seemywebsite@myfooter.really> - 2015-03-13 19:06 -0500
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-13 18:14 -0700
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2015-03-13 22:30 +0000
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-03-14 00:48 +0100
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-13 19:45 -0700
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-03-15 23:01 +0100
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? mroberds@att.net - 2015-03-14 00:28 +0000
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-13 18:45 -0700
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2015-03-14 13:14 +1100
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Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-14 22:30 -0700
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2015-03-15 21:44 -0400
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-15 20:09 -0700
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Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-17 10:39 -0700
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2015-03-17 17:06 -0400
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Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-17 23:32 -0700
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-18 05:30 -0500
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-18 10:32 -0700
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-18 16:11 -0500
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-18 18:26 -0700
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2015-03-19 02:09 -0400
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-19 12:04 -0700
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2015-03-19 17:52 -0400
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-19 15:44 -0700
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2015-03-20 02:38 -0400
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-03-20 10:05 +0100
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-20 02:51 -0700
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-03-20 11:49 +0100
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-20 05:12 -0700
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-03-20 14:55 +0100
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-20 15:07 -0700
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2015-03-20 14:11 -0400
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-20 15:20 -0700
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2015-03-22 09:28 -0400
OT: EoL Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-22 12:19 -0700
Re: OT: EoL Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2015-03-23 07:30 +0800
Re: OT: EoL Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-22 17:19 -0700
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-20 02:12 -0700
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Mel Wilson <mwilson@the-wire.com> - 2015-03-20 13:24 +0000
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-20 10:20 -0700
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2015-03-22 08:12 -0400
OT: senses Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-22 13:53 -0700
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Wouter van Ooijen <wouter@voti.nl> - 2015-03-15 10:11 +0100
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? mroberds@att.net - 2015-03-14 07:50 +0000
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Mel Wilson <mwilson@the-wire.com> - 2015-03-14 12:24 +0000
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-14 11:46 -0700
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2015-03-14 23:58 -0400
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2015-03-14 12:59 +1100
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-13 20:16 -0700
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.com> - 2015-03-13 23:20 -0500
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-13 22:29 -0700
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-13 22:46 -0700
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2015-03-14 11:02 +0100
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Anders.Montonen@kapsi.spam.stop.fi.invalid - 2015-03-16 11:37 +0000
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-16 13:53 -0700
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-14 03:16 -0500
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2015-03-14 10:27 +0200
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2015-03-14 08:43 +0000
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2015-03-14 13:55 +0200
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2015-03-14 12:14 +0000
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-03-14 18:04 +0000
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2015-03-14 23:14 +0200
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Allan Herriman <allanherriman@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-14 10:08 +0000
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2015-03-15 00:55 -0400
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-14 22:20 -0700
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2015-03-15 20:35 -0400
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-15 18:47 -0700
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-03-18 10:03 +0000
Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Matthias Koch <matthias.koch@hot.uni-hannover.de> - 2015-03-19 12:02 +0100
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