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Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions?

From Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk>
Newsgroups comp.arch.embedded
Subject Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions?
Date 2015-03-14 08:43 +0000
Organization Hidecs Consultancy
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Tim Wescott wrote:

> The title says most of it.
> 
> I'm working on a project for which the customer wants a lot of flexibility
> to customize a product.  The existing "macro language" is ancient (ca
> 1985), cryptic (it looks like machine language), limited, clunky, etc.
> The customer is willing to change.
> 
> I'm planning on having a chunk of serial flash (or an SD card) with a file
> system on it (maybe FAT, maybe something home-rolled and primitive).
> Scripts will be stored as text files, and read in as appropriate.
> 
> Rather than just use some clunky cryptic and limited language that's
> unique to the problem and to me (and charging my customer up the wazoo for
> it), I'd like to use something that's open-source and available.
> Something that uses modest resources is to be preferred -- my
> understanding is that I can expect Lua to use about 100k of flash, which
> is a bit much for me but bearable.  I don't know how Tcl compares -- I
> just know that it's an alternative.
> 
> So -- anyone have any direct experience with either of these, or with
> something else?  We briefly considered Java, but it just looks entirely
> too big -- it would basically drive us to use Linux or some other "real"
> OS (even the little linuxes are too big for my tastes) -- I'd really
> rather just have a scripting engine that gets called whenever a script
> needs to run, and otherwise doesn't need much hand-holding from the
> application code.
> 
> I'm looking for opinions, so fire away!
> 


Weighing in with a base-line requirement of about 8k of code-space and 
easily extensible I would suggest Forth could probably suit your needs very 
well. You add a little bit to it and design the script language environment 
you need. You didn't mention which processor you are using in the product 
but there is a Forth for most targets out there.

See <http://www.mpeforth.com/> or <http://www.forth.com/> for further 
information. There are also some free to download books to help.

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Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Tim Wescott <seemywebsite@myfooter.really> - 2015-03-13 16:27 -0500
  Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-13 15:03 -0700
    Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Tim Wescott <seemywebsite@myfooter.really> - 2015-03-13 19:04 -0500
      Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-03-18 02:34 -0400
        Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2015-03-18 12:37 +0000
    Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Tim Wescott <seemywebsite@myfooter.really> - 2015-03-13 19:06 -0500
      Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-13 18:14 -0700
  Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl? Lua? Thoughts? Suggestions? Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2015-03-13 22:30 +0000
  Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-03-14 00:48 +0100
    Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-13 19:45 -0700
      Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-03-15 23:01 +0100
  Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? mroberds@att.net - 2015-03-14 00:28 +0000
    Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-13 18:45 -0700
      Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2015-03-14 13:14 +1100
        Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-13 20:35 -0700
          Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2015-03-14 23:59 -0400
            Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-14 22:30 -0700
              Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2015-03-15 21:44 -0400
                Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-15 20:09 -0700
        Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2015-03-14 23:59 -0400
          Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-16 15:42 -0700
            Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2015-03-17 04:25 -0400
              Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-17 10:39 -0700
                Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2015-03-17 17:06 -0400
                Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-17 19:36 -0700
                Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2015-03-18 01:50 -0400
                Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-17 23:32 -0700
                Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-18 05:30 -0500
                Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-18 10:32 -0700
                Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-18 16:11 -0500
                Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-18 18:26 -0700
                Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2015-03-19 02:09 -0400
                Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-19 12:04 -0700
                Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2015-03-19 17:52 -0400
                Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-19 15:44 -0700
                Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2015-03-20 02:38 -0400
                Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-03-20 10:05 +0100
                Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-20 02:51 -0700
                Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-03-20 11:49 +0100
                Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-20 05:12 -0700
                Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-03-20 14:55 +0100
                Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-20 15:07 -0700
                Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2015-03-20 14:11 -0400
                Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-20 15:20 -0700
                Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2015-03-22 09:28 -0400
                OT:  EoL Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-22 12:19 -0700
                Re: OT:  EoL Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2015-03-23 07:30 +0800
                Re: OT:  EoL Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-22 17:19 -0700
                Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-20 02:12 -0700
                Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Mel Wilson <mwilson@the-wire.com> - 2015-03-20 13:24 +0000
                Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-20 10:20 -0700
                Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2015-03-22 08:12 -0400
                OT: senses Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-22 13:53 -0700
        Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Wouter van Ooijen <wouter@voti.nl> - 2015-03-15 10:11 +0100
      Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? mroberds@att.net - 2015-03-14 07:50 +0000
        Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Mel Wilson <mwilson@the-wire.com> - 2015-03-14 12:24 +0000
        Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Don Y <this@is.not.me.com> - 2015-03-14 11:46 -0700
          Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2015-03-14 23:58 -0400
  Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2015-03-14 12:59 +1100
  Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-13 20:16 -0700
    Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.com> - 2015-03-13 23:20 -0500
      Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-13 22:29 -0700
        Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-13 22:46 -0700
      Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Stefan Reuther <stefan.news@arcor.de> - 2015-03-14 11:02 +0100
    Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Anders.Montonen@kapsi.spam.stop.fi.invalid - 2015-03-16 11:37 +0000
      Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-16 13:53 -0700
  Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-14 03:16 -0500
  Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2015-03-14 10:27 +0200
  Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2015-03-14 08:43 +0000
    Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2015-03-14 13:55 +0200
      Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2015-03-14 12:14 +0000
      Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-03-14 18:04 +0000
        Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2015-03-14 23:14 +0200
  Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Allan Herriman <allanherriman@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-14 10:08 +0000
  Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2015-03-15 00:55 -0400
    Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-14 22:20 -0700
      Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2015-03-15 20:35 -0400
        Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-15 18:47 -0700
  Re: Embedded Scripting -- Tcl?  Lua?  Thoughts?  Suggestions? stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-03-18 10:03 +0000
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