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Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap.

From Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx>
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Subject Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap.
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Date 2016-02-02 17:32 +0100
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Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>

Ko0O0oki kensi the lunkheaded libtard, in
<news:n8pknn$s64$2@gioia.aioe.org> did thusly jump head first into the
wood chipper again on Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 02:09:40 -0500:

2:09 AM?! Woot! I've got LunkHead backpedaling and bleating out his
bootfucked butthurt in the wee hours already. If I'd known besting you
was going to be so easy this time around, I would have gone easier on
you to extend the entertainment, LunkHead.

Because we all know you'll run away again after you've been
sufficiently bootfucked... and your snipping, overwriting the data
that so kicks your ass with your own bleating blather, diversionary
tactics, non sequiturs and avoidance of reality are all indications
that you're right on the verge of running away. Again. LOL!

Now you bleat out how you're "waiting on an astronomical observation"
or somesuch lie... you know you want to... but everyone knows you're
just a slumpy frumpy spankard up bleating in the wee hours, dude.

<snicker>

> On 02/02/2016 1:28 AM, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler
> Emeritus wrote:

>> Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>
>>
>> Ko0O0oki kensi the lunkheaded libtard, in
>> <news:n8ogn5$1fma$1@gioia.aioe.org> did thusly jump head first into
>> the wood chipper again:

>>> On 01/02/2016 11:00 AM, Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler
>>> Emeritus wrote:

>>>>>>> Now answer me one question, kOok: which is colder, a clear winter night
>>>>>>> or a cloudy winter night?

>>> *crickets*

I note you've yet again snipped out all that data that proves you
*wrong*, you backpedaling half-wit. If you need me to take it easy on
you, just say the word. I can likely moderate at least a little bit
the rapid-fire bootfucking you've been receiving. Sometimes I don't
know my own strength. LOL

>> A moronic question that only a moron like you would ask in trying to
>> conflate cloud cover over land with cloud cover over ice or water,

> Cloud cover over snow-covered land IS cloud cover over ice, you fucking 
> dolt.

And it behaves the same way as cloud cover over glaciers and cloud
cover over water, you dolt... the ice emits in a spectrum which water
in any phase doesn't absorb, known as the infrared atmospheric window.
If you hadn't snipped out all that data, it would still be quoted in
this very post, but you're a fucking coward who can't refute what
proves you *wrong*. In fact, you're too weak to even look at it, you
homely dumpy four-eyed scared shitless little libtarded half-wit. LOL

But then, you knew that cloud cover over ice or snow-covered land
would behave the same as cloud cover over glaciers or water, and you
were just trying to disingenuously conflate cloud cover over land with
cloud cover over ice or water. I guess that straw man of yours died an
ignoble death before you'd even had the chance to properly prop him up
in preparation for kicking him down and declaring 'victolly', eh? LOL

Continue denying long-known, well-established and utterly-proven
physical phenomenon, LunkHead, it proves you haven't the first faint
fucking clue what you're blathering about... which means you really
*are* _that_ fucking gullible to have believed the libtard Klimate
Katastrophe Kook "zOMG! I'mAStupidFuck Gullible Worming! DUUURRRHHH!"
lie year after year, in spite of the mounting empirical evidence *and*
long-known, well-established and utterly-proven physical phenomenon
proving you *wrong*, *gullible* and *retarded*. LOL!

SPNAK! on LunkHead, who is yet again 180 degrees out from reality.

<snicker>

Why can't you refute the unmanipulated satellite temperature data,
LunkHead? Why do you keep running from it? It's peer-reviewed data, 
unmanipulated, unadjusted, from prestigious institutions of 
research... and it proves you Klimate Katastrophe Kooks *wrong*. LOL!

<http://www.breitbart.com/london/2014/06/26/study-that-warned-of-global-warming-over-past-decade-ridiculed-after-temperatures-drop/>
The UK Met trend shows a -0.014 C per decade (and accelerating)
*decrease*.

Message-ID: <e46a4017e5a77519d1489cd3f1129c08@dizum.com>
The actual underlying (read: unmanipulated) NOAA data shows a 0.6186 F
*decrease* from 2005 to 2015.

<http://www.globalresearch.ca/global-cooling-is-here/10783>
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LkMweOVOOI>
Dr. Don Easterbrook shows the past global warming was solar and
orbital forcing induced, the conditions have changed, and global
cooling has set in... since 1998.

<http://www.reportingclimatescience.com/news-stories/article/global-warming-pause-hits-18-years-on-rss-data.html>
Using UK Met, UAH and RSS data.

Page 11 - Global temperature rate (C per year): dropping since ~1998.
*Negative* since ~2005. That means temps have been dropping for ~17
years, and the gullible LibTarDs have been lied to for ~17 years:
<http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/media/pdf/e/f/Paper1_Observing_changes_in_the_climate_system.PDF>

Message-ID: <b41f4a8054430ac46092e607919d7063@dizum.com>
Even NASA admitted that global temperatures were falling in recent
years (before they pulled that page... luckily the WayBack Machine
archived it):
<http://web.archive.org/web/20030816225534/http://icp.giss.nasa.gov/research/methane/greenhouse.html>
Note the center trace for modern times in that graphic... *falling*
temperature, even as CO2 and methane rose.

"There has been no warming since '98, and a very slight cooling that
is not statistically significant." - James Hansen

<http://phys.org/news/2014-08-global-temperature-conundrum-cooling-climate.html>
"We have been building models and there are now robust 
contradictions," says Liu, a professor in the UW-Madison Center for 
Climatic Research. "Data from observation says global cooling. The 
physical model says it has to be warming."

===============================================================
Taken from the hacked ClimateGate 1.0 and ClimateGate 2.0 emails:
<http://tomnelson.blogspot.com/2012/01/email-4141-glimpse-into-climate-science.html>

"I think the notion of telling the public to prepare for both global
warming and an ice age at the same time creates a real public
relations problem for us."  - Asher Minns, "climate scientist" from
scandal-rocked University of East Anglia, letting the cat completely
out of the bag.

You'll note he doesn't say "global cooling", he specifically says "an
ice age"... that's telling, don't you think? LOL
===============================================================

SPNAK! on LunkHead, who can't refute the reality I promulgate.

<snicker>

-- 

Kensi snipped out any evidence that proved her wrong then demanded
that evidence again and again, only to snip it out again; she denied
having written what she clearly wrote (after she snipped it out, of
course); she k'lamed that I'd written things I clearly didn't (and she
failed to back up her k'lames with proof); she stated that zoanthropy
and transexualism aren't mental illnesses (they are listed in the
DSM); that the psychiatric community is incorrect for listing them as
such by taking an example from nearly 100 years ago (hysteria), long
before modern psychiatry got a grasp on what exactly constitutes a
mental illness; she stated that the CDC is promulgating "FUD" that's
"been debunked in thousands of places" (yet provided no proof of this
k'lamed "debunking"); she's been cornered into admitting her belief
that gays have suffered "no harm" in living a lifestyle that's given
19% of them AIDS, causes the gay community to account for 63% of new
AIDS cases per year (per the CDC) and kills thousands of them per
year; she stated that liberalism is growing when it's actually in
decline (and stated that conservatism is dying when it's actually
growing and has a nearly 2:1 advantage over liberalism), and she had
the audacity to try to use the same exact study from Gallup that I'd
used to prove her wrong in the first place (proving she's kooking out
so badly she's lost her reading comprehension abilities); she stated
the Antarctic ice sheet is shrinking faster than ever when it's
growing (to the tune of 49 gT/yr, when considering that land ice is
slowly growing and sea ice is rapidly expanding, per Nasa's ICESat);
she stated that global temperature is rising when it's been falling
for more than a decade per the UK Met and NASA, and accounting for the
revelations that US climate researchers outright falsified the data to
give the impression that a 90 year cooling trend was actually a
warming trend; she k'lamed CO2 as the driver for global temperature
change, then quoted a web page that says the exact opposite (the same
web page, BTW, that I'd used to prove that CO2 lags temperature
change, proving yet again her loss of reading comprehension)... then
she *admitted* CO2 lags global temperature change, thereby being
forced to agree with me (and reality); she then k'lamed CO2 as the
driver for global temperature change *again*, but as yet has been
unable to explain, given that CO2 levels were at least 5 times higher
in the Ordovician and sun output was nearly the same (0.991
Ordovician, 1 today), why we're not in a perpetual ice age today; she
presented examples of mass-shooting suspects that she k'lamed were
conservative (but they turned out to be liberal, socialist or were the
result of a liberal upbringing); she tried to state that Nazism was a
conservative political party (it's a form of liberal fascism that
takes many of its tenets directly from socialism); she failed to
provide any proof of some of her kooky contentions while k'laming them
as "proof"; she used a flawed and biased dating website poll and
k'lamed that it trumped an actual scientific study (ironic, given that
she's a scientist herself); she melted down so badly she lost her
ability to do simple math; she attempted to k'lame Abraham Lincoln was
a liberal (he admitted he was a conservative); she attempted to k'lame
that every major civil rights advancement was solely due to liberals
(when it was conservatives who've advanced the overwhelming majority
of civil rights bills, to the strident opposition of the liberals),
she k'lamed she knows who I am due to her "kookology experience",
"profound psychological insight" and "cryptanalysis skills", yet she's
thus far run from five challenges to out me, for 558 days and counting
(ie: she doesn't dare provide any of her so-called "proof", for fear
that she outs the fact that she's kooking out and seeing me
everywhere), and her loss of reading comprehension skills resulted in
her apparent loss of being able to determine chronology. As the level
of spankage she was receiving escalated, the time between her posts
grew, and the length of her posts grew shorter as she snipped out more
and more evidence that she's a delusional kook... she's been beating a
strategic retreat for months now.... when she's not attention-whoring
for all the boys because her make-believe husband isn't paying enough
attention to her fat, ugly, delusional ass anymore. LOL

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                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-02-01 16:03 -0500
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                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.invalid> - 2016-02-02 02:09 -0500
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-02-02 17:32 +0100
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-02 12:56 -0700
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-02-03 23:14 -0800
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.invalid> - 2016-02-02 16:59 -0500
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-02-02 16:45 -0800
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-02-03 05:10 +0100
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-02-02 23:24 -0500
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.invalid> - 2016-02-03 00:17 -0500
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-02-02 21:49 -0800
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-02-03 06:51 +0100
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-03 00:44 -0700
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe, DoW #2) - 2016-02-03 07:19 +0000
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-03 00:41 -0700
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-02-03 00:47 -0800
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe, DoW #2) - 2016-02-03 08:57 +0000
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-02-03 04:26 -0500
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-03 02:38 -0700
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-02-03 18:33 +0100
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-03 11:18 -0700
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-02-03 04:26 -0500
                Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-02-03 23:12 -0800
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    Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-01-29 17:41 -0800
      Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_master.fake> - 2016-01-29 20:56 -0500
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          Re: More bad news for Greenland's ice cap. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_master.fake> - 2016-01-30 17:58 -0500
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