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Re: Before There Was Global Warming There Was Meteorology

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Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>

Bite My Shiny Metal Ass (aka Shiny Tinfoil Brain), in
<news:nrh5eb1bvaup4f619q16pp8qbc6t160teq@4ax.com> did thusly jump head
first into the wood chipper again:

> FNVWe stomped a retard's brain flat. Again:

>> Bite My Shiny Metal Ass (aka Shiny Tinfoil Brain), in

>>> FNVWe stomped a retard's brain flat. Again:

>>>> Thus using Avogadro's Law and the Ideal Gas Law, water in its gaseous 
>>>> phase and air have a molar volume

>>> Water vapor doesn't follow the Ideal Gas Law, retard.

>> Don't you ever get tired of being wrong, Moron? LOL
>> 
>> <http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/17362/what-type-of-substances-allows-the-use-of-the-ideal-gas-law>
>> ========================================
>> Pure water vapor at 1 atm and 373 K has Pr=1/217=0.0046, so the ideal
>> gas law applies to within 10% error.

> 10% off?

Nicely conflated, Moron.

So now Shiny Tinfoil Brain k'lames "within 10% error" = "10% error"...
likely because he's a moron. LOL

> So water doesn't follow the ideal gas law, does it
> faketard?

Sure it does. One of the criteria for using the Ideal Gas Law is that
the margin of error be *within* 10%. Get it now, Moron? Or do you want
to continue to display your reading comprehension problems?

SPNAK!

> It's common knowledge that water and freon are different
> critters.

You should really stop sniffing that Freon, Moron. LOL

> That's why sane people use steam tables instead of the ideal gas law.

I'm going to SPNAK! you so fucking hard I've got to subdivide the
individual SPNAK!s into separate sections, Shiny Tinfoil Brain. Try
not to cry and bleat too loudly, now. LOL

=============================================================
Moron uses the steam tables on the atmosphere! And he k'lames he's
sane! Bwahahaha!

Ever hear of a Mollier diagram, you braindead halfwit?

<https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/59/Mollier.pdf>

SPNAK!
=============================================================
The Ideal Gas Law doesn't require an *ideal* gas, Moron.

Ever hear of PV = nRT?

Yeah, you have no fucking idea what that means, huh. LOL

Solving for volume:
P = 101325 Pa
T = 294.261 K
R = 8.3144621 J/(mol*K)
n = 1 
V = 0.0241463 m^3

SPNAK!
=============================================================
Now compare what was calculated above with:

<http://www.webqc.org/van_der_waals_gas_law.html>
(P + ((n^2 * a) / V^2)(V - nb) = nRT

Parameters: Air
P = 101325 Pa
T = 294.261 K
R = 8.3144621 J/(mol*K)
n = 1 
V = 0.024127215938815 m^3

Gee... the Ideal Gas Law when used with dry air is only 0.079% off
from perfect. So using the Ideal Gas Law for dry air is well *within*
10% error. Moron. LOL

SPNAK!
=============================================================
Now, let's calculate for air with moisture. We'll go all out and
assume 100% relative humidity as a worst case scenario, just so morons
have no wiggle room to backpedal, lie, conflate and blither-blather.

<http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=psychrometric+properties>
Using the same parameters as used above gives:
V = 0.02445 m^3

Gee... that's only 1.337842% off from an ideal gas. Moron. And that 
1.337842% is the molar density change due to water in its gaseous 
phase being in air... you'll note it's *less* dense than dry air.

You'll also note it occupies a *larger* volume for the same molar
quantity, thus it is *less* dense than dry air.

SPNAK!
=============================================================
<http://chemistry.bd.psu.edu/jircitano/gases.html>
"The previous laws all assume that the gas being measured is an ideal
gas, a gas that obeys them all exactly.  But over a wide range of
temperature, pressure, and volume, real gases deviate slightly from
ideal.  Since, according to Avogadro, the same volumes of gas contain
the same number of moles, chemists could now determine the formulas of
gaseous elements and their formula masses.  The idea gas law is:
PV = nRT

Where n is the number of moles of the number of moles and R is a
constant called the universal gas constant and is equal to
approximately 0.0821 L-atm / mole-K."

SPNAK!
==================================================

So, go on and demonstrate yet again your lack of understanding of the
Ideal Gas Law and molar volume. Moron.

SPNAK!

> Of course, you have a right to be wrong.  Which you exercise
> profusely.

Says the moron who just got SPNAK!'d. Again. And again, and again, and
again.

<snicker>

-- 

Shiny Tinfoil Brain (aka Bite My Shiny Metal Ass) didn't know:
=====================================
The Euler equation is a subset of equations known as the Euler-Fourier
Formulas, thus that a sinewave is a transformation of a circle (which
should have been intuitive, given that generators *rotate* to create
*sinusoids*);

That cross correlation is used with Fourier transforms;

That superposition is the same as wave interference;

That wave interference works the same for standing or traveling waves;

That RMS and peak-to-peak voltage are two different things;

That RMS isn't a DC voltage;

That 170 volt peak, 120.208 volt RMS L-N 3-phase service gives 208.207
volts RMS L-L;

That 4444525800 != 4400000000 != 1;

The difference between frequency and period of a sinewave;

That there's no difference between 'i' and 'j' in electrical
engineering, physics and control systems engineering;

What a positive or negative vector is;

That the vector sum of 3-phase AC constitutes a closed loop per
Kirchhoff's Voltage Law, thus that the three phases sum to zero;

That "mnemonic" is not spelled "mneumonic";

That his claim: "Water is tetrahedral. It actually has 4 poles, 2
positive and 2 negative." is nonsense from a blathering moron.

That water does not have negative poles. The oxygen has an
electronegativity of 8+, the hydrogens 1+.

That the term "electronegativity" denotes a *positive* nucleal charge.

What the definition of the word "equivalent" is.

That digital voltmeters do indeed take discrete instantaneous samples.

That the atmosphere (and the gaseous phase water within the
atmosphere) does indeed follow the Ideal Gas Law to within 1.337842%
margin of error *worst* *case* at 70 F.

That the square of the instantaneous sample of peak-to-peak voltage of
a peak-voltage sinewave is an offset sinewave, thus its average does
*not* equal zero, as Shiny Tinfoil Brain k'lames.

That the Ideal Gas Law does not require an ideal gas because it takes
into account molar volume.

That "within 10% error" does not equal "10% error".

That water can be plasmized.

That atomic number does not equal effective nuclear charge.

That nuclear charge does not equal effective nuclear charge.

And the moron continues to demonstrate his inability to read a graph.
=====================================

SPNAK!

<snicker>

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