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Re: My plasma is a consequence of H bonds and wind shear

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Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>

Bite My Shiny Metal Ass (aka Shiny Tinfoil Brain), in
<news:2d6aebpg5qng01l3sov6a1ur9l48g7b5gn@4ax.com> did thusly jump head
first into the wood chipper again:

> FNVWe stomped a retard's brain flat. Again:

>> Bite My Shiny Metal Ass (aka Shiny Tinfoil Brain), in

>>> FNVWe stomped a retard's brain flat. Again:

>>>> Referring to your own kooky blather doesn't make you right, Jim. It
>>>> only means you're clue-repellant because you're screaming at the top
>>>> of your lungs in your own little Dunning-Kruger lined echo chamber in
>>>> attempting to convince *yourself* that you're "not wrong".

>>> You're all too familiar with that strategy, aren't you,
>>> Ersatzia?  Oh, wait... you already know you're wrong.
>>> 
>>> Has the electronegativity of oxygen increased to +8 yet?

>> *You* stupidly persist in k'laming me to think electronegativity 
>> is nuclear charge.

> You did say that.  Go read your posts.

Bwahahahaaa! No MID. KookTard is trying to conflate my quoting a
Professor of Applied Science with his kooky k'lame that the
electronegativity of water is 8+.

Are you confused, KookTard? Do you not understand anything you've been
blither-blathering and bleatfarting about?

Why are you so stupid, Shiny Tinfoil Brain?

<snicker>

>> You keep bleating about the number of protons in the nucleus as your 
>> kooky "nuclear charge" of 8, but it's not 8, in the 1s orbital it's 
>> 7.658, in the 2s orbital it's 4.492, in the 2p orbital it's 4.453.

> Omg... you're saying that the 1s orbital contains 7.685
> protons, 2s contains 4.492 protons, etc?

Bwahahahaaaa! Moron yet again demonstrates that he can't grasp simple
concepts such as electron shielding.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shielding_effect>

SPNAK!

> What a maroon.  the "orbitals" contain... zero protons,
> dummy.

Awww, look at the reading comprehension challenged kooktard as he
struggles to comprehend any word longer than two syllables. LOL

Do you not understand the words "Effective Nuclear Charge", Moron, nor
what it denotes?

SPNAK!

>> Because you didn't know the number of protons does *not* equal the 
>> effective nuclear charge of an atom.

> Actually it does, imbecile.

Bwahahaaaaa! What a fucking *moron*!

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effective_nuclear_charge>
O (oxygen)
Atomic Number: 8
Effective Nuclear Charge:
1s: 7.658
2s: 4.492
2p: 4.453

Do you not understand the Periodic Table of the Elements, Shiny
Tinfoil Brain?

Why are you so stupid, Shiny Tinfoil Brain?

SPNAK!

>> Were you perhaps instead thinking of the atomic number, Moron?

> Atomic number = number of protons = nuclear charge.
> High school chemistry, tardlet.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effective_nuclear_charge>

Did you forget about electron shielding, Dimwit? Are you confused? Do
you not understand nuclear processes? Do you need to take a month to
scratch your head and puzzle that simple concept out? Go on, I'll be
here ready to drop-kick your retarded ass across Usenet. Again.

SPNAK!

<snicker>

>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronegativity>
>> =================================================
>> As it is usually calculated, electronegativity is not a property of an 
>> atom alone, but rather a property of an atom in a molecule.[4]

> You ommitted the rest of the paragraph, didn't you fakey?

> 	"As it is usually calculated, electronegativity is not
> 	 a property of an atom alone, but rather a property of
> 	 an atom in a molecule.[4] Properties of a free atom
> 	 include ionization energy and electron affinity. It
> 	 is to be expected that the electronegativity of an
> 	 element will vary with its chemical environment,[5]
> 	 but it is usually considered to be a transferable	
> 	 property, that is to say that similar values will be
> 	 valid in a variety of situations."
> 
> So why does electronegativity appear in the periodic table?

Because, you fecking moron, it's an estimate for elements. It's a set
constant only for molecules. It varies with what is being oxidized,
and is dependent upon the factors affecting that oxidation.

SPNAK!

> <http://www.sciencegeek.net/tables/Electronegativity.pdf>
> 
> Print that out, fakey.
> 
> So, what's the electronegativity of an oxygen atom?

Awww, I've let the moron bleat out his stupidity long enough... bend
over and ready yourself for Das Boot, Shiny Tinfoil Brain. LOL

Aren't you the moron who k'lames that elemental oxygen has a constant 
electronegativity?

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronegativity>
=================================================
As it is usually calculated, electronegativity is not a property of an 
atom alone, but rather a property of an atom _in_ _a_ _molecule_.[4]

The property of electronegativity of an atom in a molecule is 
different from the electrode potential of the element, which depends 
on the difference in free energy of the element in its standard state 
and in ionic solution, and it is different from the ionization 
potential of the atom, and from its electron affinity; although it is 
related to these properties in a general way.

It has been found possible to formulate an electronegativity scale of 
the elements by the analysis of the values of delta and delta_umlaut 
given by the single-bond energies. In Table 3-6 values of delta_umlaut 
are listed for the bonds between nonmetallic atoms whose energies are 
given in Table 3-4. These are obtained in the same ways as those in 
Table 3-3. It is seen on inspection that the values of delta_umlaut do 
not satisfy an additivity relation; they cannot be represented as 
differences of terms characteristic of the two atoms in a bond. 
However, the square roots of the delta_umlaut values do satisfy 
approximately a relation of this sort.

The method just described for formulating the electronegativity scale 
cannot be used for the remaining elements in general because of a lack 
of knowledge of enthalpies of formation of their compounds as gases 
and of the values of single-bond energies for the elements themselves.

Except for nitrogen and oxygen, which are discussed below, the 
elements in their standard states do not differ much in energy from 
states involving normal single covalent bonds between the atoms.

It is the unusual stability of multiple bonds for oxygen and nitrogen, 
stabilizing their normal states, that often leads to negative values 
of the enthalpy of formation of substances.

By the use of Equation 3-13 the difference in electronegativity of two 
elements can be calculated from the enthalpy of formation of the 
compounds formed by them.

Table 3-8: The values given in the table refer to the common oxidation 
states of the elements. For some elements variation of the 
electronegativity with oxidation number is observed.

[4] Pauling, Linus (1960). Nature of the Chemical Bond. Cornell 
University Press. pp. 88–107. ISBN 0-8014-0333-2.
=================================================

How do you oxidize *oxygen* except with fluorine to figure out its 
enthalpy of formation and thus its exact electronegativity, you 
fecking *moron*? *No* *one* wants to formulate FOOF (O2F2) to find out 
the exact oxidation state of elemental oxygen. You know, FOOF, 
Lucifer's Gas? That shit makes *ice* explode. It makes asbestos 
*burn*. It reacts with gold. Hit it with a CO2 fire extinguisher, you 
just make it mad.

So... your bleating about oxygen's electronegativity means you're 
bleating about an approximation, Moron. Even Pauling himself admitted 
that elemental electronegativity is an approximation, and thus isn't 
all that accurate, which is why he only presented them with single 
decimal accuracy. Moron.

Further, oxygen's affinity for itself in forming multiple bonds means 
that for a lot of substances, the enthalpy of formation is negative, 
thus the electronegativity is dependent upon which substance oxygen is 
interacting with and whatever other factors contribute to or detract 
from that interaction.

Nitrogen is the same way, nitrogen trichloride isn't unstable because 
of weak N-Cl bonds, but rather because nitrogen is constantly trying 
to reform into triple-bonded N2, with a negative enthalpy of formation 
and thus exothermic reaction of nitrogen trichloride.

You know, Linus Pauling... the guy who developed the first accurate 
electronegativity scale for molecules... you think *he* might know a 
bit more about electronegativity than a moronic bleatfarting retard 
like you, Shiny Tinfoil Brain? LOL

SPNAK!

Why are you so stupid, Shiny Tinfoil Brain?

<snicker>

> -- 
> "But that squared sinewave function is still a sinewave."
>   --Fakey lectures on trig identities

<https://youtu.be/pgzc4aU_HeY?t=585>
Gee, that squared sinewave function sure looks like a *sinewave*.

And the foot-bullets fly. LOL

SPNAK!

I bet you wish you could be right just once, huh, Moron.

<snicker>

-- 

Shiny Tinfoil Brain (aka Bite My Shiny Metal Ass) didn't know:
=====================================
The Euler equation is a subset of equations known as the Euler-Fourier
Formulas, thus that a sinewave is a transformation of a circle (which
should have been intuitive, given that generators *rotate* to create
*sinusoids*).

That cross correlation is used with Fourier transforms.

That superposition is the same as wave interference.

That wave interference works the same for standing or traveling waves.

That RMS and peak-to-peak voltage are two different things.

That RMS isn't a DC voltage.

That 170 volt peak, 120.208 volt RMS L-N 3-phase service gives 208.207
volts RMS L-L.

That 4444525800 != 4400000000 != 1.

The difference between frequency and period of a sinewave.

That there's no difference between 'i' and 'j' in electrical
engineering, physics and control systems engineering.

What a positive or negative vector is.

That the vector sum of 3-phase AC constitutes a closed loop per
Kirchhoff's Voltage Law, thus that the three phases sum to zero.

That "mnemonic" is not spelled "mneumonic".

That his claim: "Water is tetrahedral. It actually has 4 poles, 2
positive and 2 negative." is nonsense from a blathering moron.

That the term "electronegativity" denotes a *positive* effective
nuclear charge.

What the definition of the word "equivalent" is.

That digital voltmeters do indeed take discrete instantaneous samples.

That the atmosphere (and the gaseous phase water within the
atmosphere) does indeed follow the Ideal Gas Law to within 1.337842%
margin of error *worst* *case* at 70 F.

That the square of the instantaneous sample of peak-to-peak voltage of
a peak-voltage sinewave is an offset sinewave, thus its average does
*not* equal zero, as Shiny Tinfoil Brain k'lames.

That the Ideal Gas Law does not require an ideal gas because it takes
into account molar volume.

That "within 10% error" does not equal "10% error".

That water can be plasmized.

That atomic number does not equal effective nuclear charge.

And the moron continues to demonstrate his inability to read a graph.
=====================================

SPNAK!

<snicker>

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Re: My plasma is a consequence of H bonds and wind shear Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-11 07:55 +0100
  Re: My plasma is a consequence of H bonds and wind shear Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-11 22:53 +0800
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      Re: My plasma is a consequence of H bonds and wind shear g8dgc <g8dgc@noneya.none> - 2016-03-11 10:15 -0500
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    Re: My plasma is a consequence of H bonds and wind shear Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-13 06:19 +0100
      Re: My plasma is a consequence of H bonds and wind shear binky feel good <julianfwaldby@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 21:52 -0800
      Re: My plasma is a consequence of H bonds and wind shear Bite My Shiny Metal Ass <bender@the.future> - 2016-03-13 15:49 +0800
        Re: My plasma is a consequence of H bonds and wind shear Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2016-03-14 06:47 +0100
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