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Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox

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Date	2015-07-31 19:30 -0700
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Subject	Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox
From	John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com>

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On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 9:03:51 PM UTC-5, rotchm wrote:
> On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 9:44:17 PM UTC-4, John Gogo wrote:
> 
> > IMHO, paradoxes are flaws to the applied theory in question.
> 
> Your opinion doesnt change the definitions of words. The word 'paradox' here is defined as Tom said; its a *seemingly* contradiction, NOT a contradiction. 
> 
> Even you admitted to that: "I believe paradoxes are an indication of an incomplete understanding of a phenomena". Incomplete understating, meaning that it *seems* contradictory to the lay.

Even to the pro.  C'mon, in fifty or a hundred years the future will laugh at our ideas.  Only question is which idea will they laugh most at?

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Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-07-28 20:16 -0500
  Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2015-07-28 19:16 -0700
    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2015-07-28 19:20 -0700
      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2015-07-28 19:23 -0700
        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2015-07-28 20:44 -0700
        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-07-29 13:59 -0700
          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-07-29 14:20 -0700
          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 00:53 -0700
            Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 09:28 -0500
          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 01:03 -0700
        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@hotspam.not> - 2015-07-30 08:19 +0200
    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-28 19:46 -0700
  Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-29 23:20 +0200
    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 01:07 -0700
      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 09:30 -0500
    Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-30 16:28 +0200
      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-07-31 19:46 -0500
      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-07-31 19:52 -0500
        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-01 18:02 -0700
          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox alsor@interia.pl - 2015-08-02 10:01 -0700
            Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 12:03 -0700
              Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-03 23:36 +0200
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 15:35 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-04 16:38 +0200
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 11:53 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-04 21:54 +0200
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-04 14:53 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-05 16:28 +0200
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 07:33 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-05 17:10 +0200
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Bohuš Matuška <bohu@paranetnet.net> - 2015-08-05 15:51 +0000
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 09:01 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-05 18:16 +0200
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Bohuš Matuška <bohu@paranetnet.net> - 2015-08-05 16:22 +0000
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 09:47 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-05 19:13 +0200
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 10:18 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-05 19:29 +0200
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 10:45 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-05 19:51 +0200
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 10:59 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-05 20:07 +0200
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 13:28 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-05 23:22 +0200
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 14:45 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-06 16:41 +0200
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 11:11 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-06 20:25 +0200
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 11:56 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-06 21:06 +0200
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 12:15 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-06 21:26 +0200
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 12:34 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-06 21:47 +0200
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 15:27 -0500
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 13:36 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-06 23:05 +0200
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 14:53 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 17:59 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-06 18:21 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-08-06 18:34 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 00:17 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-07 16:32 +0200
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 11:36 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-07 21:49 +0200
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 16:05 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-06 12:20 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-06 21:35 +0200
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 12:43 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-06 21:48 +0200
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 12:59 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-05 20:12 +0200
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-05 08:44 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 15:10 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-05 16:31 +0200
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 09:00 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-05 18:14 +0200
        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-03 09:21 -0500
          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-03 17:19 +0200
          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Bohuš Matuška <bohu@paranetnet.net> - 2015-08-03 15:22 +0000
          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 10:28 -0700
          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-03 18:23 -0700
      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-31 18:40 -0700
        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-31 18:44 -0700
          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-07-31 19:03 -0700
            Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-31 19:30 -0700
              Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-31 19:42 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-31 19:45 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-31 19:54 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-07-31 19:48 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-31 19:57 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-31 19:58 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-31 20:03 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-31 20:16 -0700
              Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-07-31 19:45 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-31 20:30 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-31 20:34 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-31 20:39 -0700
            Fresh from getting his ass kicked in a humiliation, Stephane Baune pretends to "teach" "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2015-07-31 19:55 -0700
        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-07-31 20:48 -0500
        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-31 18:53 -0700
      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-07-31 21:15 -0700
        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-01 03:49 -0700
        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 09:00 -0500
          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 10:48 -0700
            Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 14:23 -0500
              Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 13:10 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 13:30 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 15:54 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-03 18:36 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 22:54 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 13:59 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 16:10 -0500
      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-01 19:51 -0700
        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox alsor@interia.pl - 2015-08-02 10:14 -0700
          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 17:56 -0700
            Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox alsor@interia.pl - 2015-08-04 12:41 -0700
              Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 15:39 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox alsor@interia.pl - 2015-08-04 17:06 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 18:29 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox alsor@interia.pl - 2015-08-04 19:09 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 20:56 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-04 19:52 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 20:48 -0700
      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-08-02 18:47 +0200
      Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-03 09:08 -0500
        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Bohuš Matuška <bohu@paranetnet.net> - 2015-08-03 15:28 +0000
        Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-08-03 10:56 -0700
          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 13:55 -0700
          Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-03 20:26 -0500
            Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 00:38 -0700
              Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-04 05:07 -0400
              Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 06:31 -0700
            Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-08-04 06:19 -0700
              Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 06:50 -0700
              Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 09:09 -0500
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-08-04 07:17 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 07:25 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 09:48 -0500
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 09:57 -0500
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-08-05 06:07 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 06:30 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-08-05 08:49 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 10:59 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-08-05 12:19 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 14:24 -0500
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-08-05 17:59 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 20:17 -0500
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 18:54 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-08-05 19:45 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-08-05 21:14 +0200
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 12:25 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-05 21:52 -0500
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 20:11 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-08-05 17:49 -0700
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-08-06 12:14 +0200
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-08-06 14:18 +0200
                Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-08-07 12:20 +0200
            Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox Bohuš Matuška <bohu@paranetnet.net> - 2015-08-04 15:56 +0000
              Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox rotchm <rotchm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 09:06 -0700
                Stephane baune continues to puff himself "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2015-08-04 11:04 -0700
  Re: Inescapable (symmetric) twins paradox John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-29 20:16 -0700

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