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| Date | 2018-10-14 15:30 -0700 |
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| Subject | Re: Who isn't "owned", you ?! |
| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
On Sunday, October 14, 2018 at 4:07:25 PM UTC-6, -hh wrote: > On Sunday, October 14, 2018 at 4:21:18 PM UTC-4, Steve Carroll wrote: > > On Sunday, October 14, 2018 at 1:03:28 PM UTC-6, -hh wrote: > > > On Sunday, October 14, 2018 at 1:52:17 PM UTC-4, Steve Carroll wrote: > > > > On Sunday, October 14, 2018 at 11:15:26 AM UTC-6, -hh wrote: > > > > > On Sunday, October 14, 2018 at 12:06:37 PM UTC-4, Steve Carroll wrote: > > > > > > On Sunday, October 14, 2018 at 8:26:52 AM UTC-6, -hh wrote: > > > > > > > On Saturday, October 13, 2018 at 11:20:51 PM UTC-4, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote: > > > > > > > > You (Hugh) wrote: > > > > > > > > > someone OWNS him [ Kavanaugh ]. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who, the bankers ? What's your _ conspiracy theory ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time will tell > > > > > > > > > > > > That's the premise of everything you're saying, not a lot of substance though. > > > > > > > > > > But there still are some specifics, which suffice for the point. > > > > > > > > > > > > for the specifics, but in the meantime, despite the Republican > > > > > > > party classical worship of wealth, Kavanaugh's disclosures have already > > > > > > > revealed (despite also already having help in obfuscating) that he is far from > > > > > > > being financially secure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We ( you, the media, and the FBI ) are watching him closely. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, not really. > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! Everyone is watching.Trying to turn reality into something other than > > > > > > what it is doesn't really work. > > > > > > > > > > Clearly, you didn't read his financial disclosures > > > > > > > > I saw enough to spot that this sky hadn't fallen the way many have claimed. > > > > that's all you get now, accusation, innuendo, etc. > > > > > > Except that I didn't claim that the sky has fallen > > > > My point is the claims are just that (I'm not very interested in claims at this point). > > Golly, that's a sudden reversal! /S Yeah, it's diametrically opposed to my first comment to you: "That's the premise of everything you're saying, not a lot of substance though." LOL! How many ways did I say it's all claims, allegations, insinuations? I didn't count ;) > > - rather, to watch and wait. > > > For example, much of Kavnaugh's personal credit card debt appears to be > > > linked to him buying lots of Pro Baseball tickets ... for just whom was he doing > > > so? Let's check back in a year to see if others are now buying *his* tickets. > > > > We have to make decisions *now*, were we to wait for the 'perfect' candidate > > for every position and from everyone's perspective, we'd have no govt. > > "Perfect Candidate" = Goalpost move. "Perfect Candidate" = non-existent. It really wouldn't matter who it was, we all know what was going to happen. > > > > > > > > Who isn't "owned", you ?! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the contrary, I freely admit that I am 'owned' in various ways, in the form of > > > > > > > certain NDA style obligations for which I receive a nominal salary. > > > > > > > > > > > > That's not "owned", that's monetary renumeration (it's that ol' reality > > > > > > thing again). > > > > > > > > > > The terminology was Jeff-Relf's, and the point is that mine is renumeration for > > > > > a clearly defined job, without the prospects of kickbacks, etc. > > > > > > > > Kickbacks that are only ever alleged where Kavanaugh is concerned... a small > > > > but mighty point. The irresponsible piling on of accusations isn't helping anyone, > > > > all it does is undermine the entire hair ball for everyone. If it's all one has to run > > > > on, I guess that's what you use... but at some point enough people will see it. > > > > > > He's now finally in a terminal position of power, so people are now going to want to > > > curry his favor, instead of vice-versa. > > > > A position of power like President Kennedy, who was gunned down? Terminal, > > or not, anyone could get to him, or anyone in any other position of power in any > > number of ways. So why single out Kavanaugh? In my early 20s I owed almost > > 30k (in late 70s dollars) and I wasn't making a lot of money... took me a few > > years to dig out. Frankly, I don't see this as the issue that you do. > > Once again, it is the worship of money and how 'insiders' quickly have it line > their pockets. Once again, even *if* it's true in Kavanaugh's case, why single him out? > > > The question is if he will allow himself to be > > > so courted, or if he will follow the highest ethical standards of the highest court in > > > the land. YMMV, but I have my doubts, particularly when one looks at the blatant > > > ethical conflicts of interest that Scalia did...literally up to the day he died. > > > > These people aren't Gods, they're people. God-like people wouldn't stand for > > the process, that's why we get the kinds of people we get... been that way for > > a very long time. I'm not saying not to ask questions but people like you aren't > > governing the asking, tempering it, so as not to foster an atmosphere like this. > > > > IMO most of the people in Washington and on the SCOTUS have any number > > of skeletons in their closets and that will likely never change but, to me, there > > is a *huge* difference between a real skeleton and an alleged one. > > Good thing that his yearbook et al told us about this one, even though that all > got disregarded. A high school yearbook? Please. > > > > > For example, > > > > > Congress exempted themselves from the SEC prohibitions on Insider Trading. > > > > > > > > The Congress (which consists of both sides of the aisle) does all sorts of > > > > weird things. For instance, when they put together the list of people who > > > > would be considered 'mandatory reporters' of child abuse they somehow > > > > left themselves off the list. Are we to read into this that they're comprised > > > > of a large percentage of child abusers? I guess you could but without any > > > > proof, what's the point? > > > > > > Agreed; I merely picked one that has a very direct line to personal enrichment. > > > > But even if true, it has nothing to do with Kavanaugh where it isn't also done > > by those on the other side of the fence. So, again, why single him out? I know > > why you're doing it... perhaps you're no longer even aware that you are doing it. > > Feel free to try to explain "what I'm doing" You're playing the role of partisan hack pretty effectively... and I doubt you see that. > - - but do keep in mind that I'm not > endorsing corruption by either/any political party: it is all quite contemptible. > > > > > > > > > > > the "deal" that Trump just bragged about for NAFTA > > > > > > > > > was actually unchanged [ or worse ]. > > > > > > > > > we're still waiting on that promised deal with North Korea, China ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sounds like there isn't going to be much change, right ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, its going to be worse than the status quo would have been, but that's > > > > > > > just been par for #45: as Fortune or Forbes (I forget which) reported over > > > > > > > a year ago, Donald would be substantially (like ~3x) more wealthy had he > > > > > > > merely put the money he got from his Father into a Stock Market Index Fund > > > > > > > instead of conducting any business endeavors on his own. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hindsight is 20/20... one could also argue he'd also be wealthier if he hadn't > > > > > > become POTUS. > > > > > > > > > > Of course, he did learn from his first bankruptcy ... oh, wait! I meant to say > > > > > that he learn from his *second* bankruptcy ... um...oops! /S > > > > > > Maybe in 20/20 hindsight, Steve will remember to retract his comment. /S > > > > Which comment? > > Rereading is your friend. How can I 'reread' what comment you're referring to? > > > > > > > Plus it depends on what scale you use. The trade war with China is > > > > > > > > > > > > ... one *they* started, we're only now making it a fair fight. I repeat: Trying > > > > > > to turn reality into something other than what it is doesn't work. > > > > > > > > > > And just how did China "start it"? > > > > > > > > Why don't you tell me, being that you apparently believe you have the > > > > 'real' story. > > > > > > Because it was **your** claim that China started it. Second request. > > > > You know what I'll reply with and you know what you'll come back with so > > what's the point? > > Because it is still **your** claim. > > > I'll cite something like currency manipulation and you'll > > pretend it's had no effect. I'll cite the stealing of intellectual property, you'll > > come up with some argument I'll reject, etc. I know you reject all things > > Trump and his administration/tentacles but I happen to believe the report > > to Congress that came out early in the year regarding China's compliance > > with the WTO. At the least, the portions I've seen unquestionably make it > > apparent China is a cheater. It's more expedient if you just point out why > > you believe the U.S. started the trade war and how/when they did it. > > Ironic how you didn't commit to anything, not even a congressional report. In my opinion anyone who can read that report and *not* come away with the idea that China didn't play by the rules is probably a partisan hack. Comment enough for ya? > > > > This isn't gonna be another 'lesson' like the 'crime stats' > > > > one, is it? Where you ramble against things you'd prefer didn't exist? > > > > > > I still stand behind what I wrote. > > > > > > > <https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/12/us/politics/border-agency-employees-arrested.html?partner=msft_msn> > > > > > > > > See, that's called 'reality'... and you can't just 'argue' it away with 'prose', > > > > you actually need proof for that sh*t. > > > > > > That reality is that roughly 1% of that workforce has been charged. > > > > To the tune of how many crimes (that's the tough one)? BTW, that 1% are > > the ones we know about, it could be *much* higher, we'll never know and > > that's the point. > > > > > Now if > > > that same rate of criminality exists within Congress, just how many of them > > > should we statistically expect to see arrested before Election Day 2018? ;-) > > > > LOL! > > Yup....flying pigs on that one, even though we agree that the number shouldn't > be zero. > > > > > > > > > shaping up to be quite economically disruptive and a fight that we are > > > > > > > ill-equipped to actually win, > > > > > > > > > > > > We'll see, won't we. I know I'd rather go down fighting than do what we've > > > > > > been doing, which is rolling over and taking it dry. > > > > > > > > > > Not the point being made here. Long ago on another policy topic, I asked the > > > > > question: "Who was the last leader who *deliberately* started a two-front war?". > > > > > The point is that if you're going to conduct an operation, you make a plan first. > > > > > > YA lack of response noted. > > > > I have no problem with his flying by the seat of his pants; that I see, it looks > > to be more effective than all the 'best laid plans' we've seen to date. I'd rather > > see it move the needle in one direction or the other so we can correct if need > > be. The idea that there's some crystal ball for this stuff isn't realistic and you > > don't need one to spot China's cheating (read the 2017 USTR report). > > Still waiting for (a) your commitment, and (b) the URL link. I figure if you really care you can find it... but I suspect you won't bother to look. Like I said, I don;t believe it's possible to convince you of something once you've dug your heels in <shrug>. > > > > > > > > It's (popular) lip service to American workers, apparently. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Red meat for his base > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, screw those 'little people', right? They'll never be smart enough to > > > > > > sign NDA style obligations for a "nominal salary" so fck 'em <eyeroll>. > > > > > > > > > > Nope. I'm sorry that they've voted against their own economic interests. > > > > > > > > LOL! So they're all being duped by a con man, is that it? He stands a > > > > chance to gain something from all of them? > > > > > > I see that you didn't dispute my point that they had voted against their own > > > economic interests. > > > > The above is my dispute. So make your case. > > > > > Perhaps you'll also figure out just what did motivate them. > > > Of course, that answer is in more statistical surveys, so "good luck!". > > > > More than any single thing, I believe they were tired of the usual Washington BS, > > that's the biggest reason HRC lost. Make no mistake, Trump didn't win, she lost. > > That's not a minor thing, I see it as an indictment of the system. The Dems were > > given a wake up call... they need to actually *do* that now... and it's not gonna > > happen by running Ocasio-Cortez or Avenatti (and probably not Biden). > > Interesting opinion, which IMO has some merit...but that observation still doesn't > mean that they didn't end up voting against their own economic interests. And any minute now you'll make that case ;) > > > > > > >, who will only eventually learn later that they've been > > > > > > > set up to be the sacrificial lamb for other players in the Economy. > > > > > > > > > > > > This is quite the future you're forecasting, it largely consists of the idea > > > > > > that things run in cycles. What a mystic ;) > > > > > > > > > > No, it has nothing to do with cycles, but simply the observation that > > > > > commodities (soybeans, etc) are taking the brunt of the hit for how the > > > > > tech sector sold out their IP for far too little. To that end, why isn't it the > > > > > tech sector repaying the farmers? > > > > > > > > I have an idea... instead of asking even more questions, why don't you put > > > > up some proof of your myriad of allegations, insinuations, etc? You leftist > > > > loons don't get that this stuff gets *really* old. > > > > > > Still waiting for you to articulate just how "China Started It", particularly with > > > the explanation for how this relates to US Soybean Farmers as contributors. > > > > It doesn't relate. > > Thanks for conceding to my point. In your mind that happened... but I'd submit you're not looking at the report I mentioned... plenty of things that aren't tied to farming in it. > BTW, the "kickback" to corn of 15% Ethanol which got cheers at a recent rally > has a footnote in that the requirement to have any Ethanol at all in gas is > reportedly being relaxed...that's a gimme for the oil refiners. Now given that gas > without Ethanol in it is cheaper than with it, just what do you think is going to > happen? And if you're a corn farmer, are you still cheering? Only if you didn't > hear about the second part. Hint: There are going to be winners and losers when you start doing *anything* with trade. > > > > Why? Because I've seen no evidence of that being the case. Prove me wrong. > > > > Unfortunately, I honestly don't believe it's possible to prove to you that > > you're wrong about anything once you've committed to a position. > > Except for how you just did come around to understanding and agreeing with > one of my points; there's hope for you yet. I have no idea what you're talking about here. > In the meantime, this week's investment consideration is diversification into > counters including Gold and/or Cash, with the latter including tax-free Municipal > Money Market Funds, such as Vanguard's VMSXX. So let's have it, where's the dark cloud, Mr. Sunshine? ;)
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Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-14 10:09 -0400
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-13 16:13 +0000
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-13 12:16 -0400
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-13 09:32 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-13 16:52 +0000
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-13 10:56 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-13 11:20 -0700
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Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Silicon Vee <siliconvee1945@yahoo.com> - 2018-10-13 12:11 +0200
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-13 10:41 -0400
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-13 08:30 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-13 10:59 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-13 16:09 +0000
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-15 07:52 -0500
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-15 10:59 -0400
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 08:20 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-12 08:36 -0500
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-13 01:46 +0000
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 18:56 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 19:12 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-10-13 05:42 -0400
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-13 03:46 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-13 16:18 +0000
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-13 12:23 -0400
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-13 10:55 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 10:44 +0200
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-10-15 05:21 -0400
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 03:08 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-10-15 05:22 -0400
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-15 08:26 -0400
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 05:44 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-10-15 09:02 -0400
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 07:18 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 17:26 +0000
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 16:24 +0200
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 07:49 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-15 11:46 -0400
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 09:07 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 17:28 +0000
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-10-15 14:26 -0400
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 12:15 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-15 21:32 -0400
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 19:00 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-10-16 08:10 +0200
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 23:40 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-16 11:08 -0400
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 17:23 +0000
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-15 14:14 -0400
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-15 13:29 -0500
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 20:41 +0200
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-10-15 14:33 -0400
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-15 14:10 -0500
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-16 00:13 +0000
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-15 20:20 -0400
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-16 00:33 +0000
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-15 21:16 -0400
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 20:02 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-16 01:29 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-16 06:40 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-16 06:47 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-10-16 17:58 -0400
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-16 06:51 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-16 15:07 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-16 06:51 -0500
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-16 12:20 -0400
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-16 12:58 -0500
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-16 11:10 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-16 13:23 -0500
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-16 11:35 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-16 13:37 -0500
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-16 15:23 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-16 20:31 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-16 13:12 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-16 15:23 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-16 18:47 -0400
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-16 15:52 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-16 21:48 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Torquemada <whocares@whocares.org> - 2018-10-16 14:08 -0400
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-16 15:21 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Torquemada <whocares@whocares.org> - 2018-10-16 14:08 -0400
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-16 00:11 +0000
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-15 20:18 -0400
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-16 00:30 +0000
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-15 21:12 -0400
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-16 06:43 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-16 06:47 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-16 08:38 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-16 15:13 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 17:22 +0000
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-15 07:42 -0500
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-15 08:52 -0400
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-12 12:44 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 13:13 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 16:51 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 14:47 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-13 01:39 +0000
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Silicon Vee <siliconvee1945@yahoo.com> - 2018-10-13 06:55 +0200
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 22:18 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-10-13 05:49 -0400
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-10-13 06:03 -0400
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-13 16:43 +0000
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-13 10:54 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-10-15 05:16 -0400
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 17:20 +0000
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-10-15 14:31 -0400
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-16 00:15 +0000
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-13 16:41 +0000
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-13 09:48 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-13 15:16 -0400
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-13 12:27 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-13 12:40 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-13 12:48 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-13 12:56 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-13 15:00 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-13 17:37 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-13 10:34 -0400
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Silicon Vee <siliconvee1945@yahoo.com> - 2018-10-13 16:35 +0200
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-13 11:00 -0400
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-13 10:59 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-15 13:58 -0500
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 12:30 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-13 16:49 +0000
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-24 21:18 -0400
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-25 08:32 -0400
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-13 11:04 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-12 12:26 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Silicon Vee <siliconvee1945@yahoo.com> - 2018-10-12 21:47 +0200
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 15:33 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-12 17:04 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 17:22 -0700
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-13 01:48 +0000
Re: Popular politician's rowdy teen years Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-13 11:03 -0700
RonB is an Ass. Enough said ... Simon bar Sinister <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 07:28 -0700
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