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Re: Extracting values from xml file using php/xpath/namespace/simplexml/

From "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee>
Newsgroups comp.lang.php
Subject Re: Extracting values from xml file using php/xpath/namespace/simplexml/
Date 2014-09-07 23:53 +0200
Message-ID <c742dvFfn9lU1@mid.uni-berlin.de> (permalink)
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Am 07.09.2014 15:54, schrieb Jerry Stuckle:
> On 9/7/2014 5:57 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> Denis McMahon wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 05 Sep 2014 04:08:09 +0200, Christoph M. Becker wrote:
>>>> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>>> On 9/4/2014 5:21 PM, Thomas 'Pointed Head' Lahn wrote:
>>>>>> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>>> His code will detect the change in the markup.  Yours will not, because
>>>>> you are not using the full XPath.  And once again - yours can fail if
>>>>> the XML happens to have multiple (but different) XPaths with the same
>>>>> identifiers.  The Ops will not.
>>>>
>>>> "Mutitple (but different) XPaths"?  Do you mean multiple (but different)
>>>> XPath expressions?
>>>
>>> No
>>>
>>> Jerry is trying to point out to tpel-troll that if you use a partial xpath
>>> instead of a fully qualified xpath to match data in an xml document,
>>> there is a risk that if the same partial xpath matches one or more
>>> unwanted elements as well as the wanted element(s), the unwanted element
>>> (s) will end up as part of the selection.
>>
>> If he would have, this would be showing that he does not understand XPath.
>> As you assume he did, you clearly do not understand XPath.
>>
>> An XPath query always matches all elements that match that path.  In a XML 
>> document
>>
>>   <foo>
>>     <bar id="baz" />
>>     <bar id="bla" />
>>   </foo>
>>
>> the path '/foo/bar' matches <bar id="baz" /> *and* <bar id="bla" />.
>>
>> Therefore, the return value of SimpleXMLElement::xpath() is *always* an 
>> array, unless the query is syntactically in error, in which case the return 
>> value is FALSE.
>>
>> As for “unwanted elements”, it is a fallacy to assume that if the structure 
>> of the XML document changes, a more general query *must* return unwanted 
>> elements.  For example, if the structure changes to
>>
>>   <foo>
>>     <bars>
>>       <bar id="baz" />
>>       <bar id="bla" />
>>     </bars>
>>   </foo>
>>
>> (which makes sense structurally) the result for the more general XPath query 
>> './/bar' will still contain only wanted elements, namely still only <bar 
>> id="baz" /> and <bar id="bla" />.  It could be further refined by using 
>> /bars[1] as *context node* (using '.' in the path), referring only to nodes 
>> *below* that node in the hierarchy of the data structure.  This is what I 
>> referred to with flexibility.  
>>
>> IOW: Using the full XPath path is _not_ always the best approach.
>>
> 
> Once again you're as full of crap as your code is full of holes.  But I
> should know better than to try to teach the troll.  It's like trying to
> teach a pig to sing.
> 

*yawn*


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Extracting values from  xml file using php/xpath/namespace/simplexml/ ofuuzo@gmail.com - 2014-08-13 04:02 -0700
  Re: Extracting values from  xml file using php/xpath/namespace/simplexml/ Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-08-13 09:25 -0400
    Re: Extracting values from  xml file using php/xpath/namespace/simplexml/ ofuuzo@gmail.com - 2014-08-14 03:29 -0700
      Re: Extracting values from  xml file using php/xpath/namespace/simplexml/ Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-08-14 10:06 -0400
      Re: Extracting values from  xml file using php/xpath/namespace/simplexml/ Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-08-17 19:43 +0200
        Re: Extracting values from  xml file using php/xpath/namespace/simplexml/ Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-08-17 15:21 -0400
          Re: Extracting values from  xml file using php/xpath/namespace/simplexml/ Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-08-17 23:41 +0200
            Re: Extracting values from  xml file using php/xpath/namespace/simplexml/ Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-08-17 18:57 -0400
              Re: Extracting values from  xml file using php/xpath/namespace/simplexml/ Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-09-03 23:10 +0200
                Re: Extracting values from  xml file using php/xpath/namespace/simplexml/ Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-09-03 20:11 -0400
                Re: Extracting values from  xml file using php/xpath/namespace/simplexml/ "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-09-04 02:42 +0200
                Re: Extracting values from  xml file using php/xpath/namespace/simplexml/ Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-09-03 21:57 -0400
                Re: Extracting values from  xml file using php/xpath/namespace/simplexml/ Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-09-04 23:21 +0200
                Re: Extracting values from  xml file using php/xpath/namespace/simplexml/ Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-09-04 20:43 -0400
                Re: Extracting values from  xml file using php/xpath/namespace/simplexml/ "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2014-09-05 04:08 +0200
                Re: Extracting values from  xml file using php/xpath/namespace/simplexml/ Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2014-09-05 02:50 +0000
                Re: Extracting values from  xml file using php/xpath/namespace/simplexml/ Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-09-05 08:24 -0400
                Re: Extracting values from  xml file using php/xpath/namespace/simplexml/ Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-09-07 11:57 +0200
                Re: Extracting values from  xml file using php/xpath/namespace/simplexml/ Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2014-09-07 09:54 -0400
                Re: Extracting values from  xml file using php/xpath/namespace/simplexml/ "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2014-09-07 23:53 +0200

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