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Re: No "Accept" button in OS X window when using HDMI video out

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On 2014-03-17, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <bomuaeF5mu6U2@mid.individual.net>
>   Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2014-03-16, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>> In message <bomkp1F3v8mU1@mid.individual.net>
>>>   Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2014-03-16, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It is not a bug in Facetime. I explained to you, the Epson projector
>>>
>>>> 1. The Epson Projector *does* support audio over HDMI but you have to select
>>>> 	HDMI as the Mac's output device.
>>>
>>> Really? Mine doesn't, and has no way to output audio (or input audio)
>
>> Yes, really! The projector is a 730HD 720p and it has an internal speaker but
>> no microphone.
>
>>>> 2. The problem is not with the audio; it's the fact that no "Accept" button
>>>> 	shows up in the Facetime window. The ringing is heard but she can't
>>>> 	accept the call.
>>>
>>> The reason the accept button doesn't appear is because of the lack of
>>> audio in.
>>>
>
>> I'd buy that except:
>> 1. The HDMI display just shows up as the display in the Mac's
>> 	System Preferences->Displays pane.
>> 2. The Mac display is still active and its Facetime window has no Accept button
>> 	either.
>
> This doesn't jibe with your saying that there are no mirroring options
> in the Displays System Preferences.

Why not? I know the Mac display is active because I looke at and interact with
it. System Preferences->Dispkays shows only the HDMI device -- no mirror
or second display option.
>
>> 3. Once the call is accepted (with the HDMI device disconnected) and the HDMI
>> 	device is reconnected, the Facetime call proceeds normally with both audio
>> 	and video.
>
>> I maintain that it is a bug in Facetime or one of the associated APIs since
>> the app is running on the Mac and all the Mac's peripherals are functional;
>> in particular, the Input Device is set to Internal microphone.

You might also note that the HDMI interface is unidirectional; it wouldn't
matter if the priojector did have a microphone.
>
> It's certainly possible. My MBP doesn't have HDMI out, so it could be
> some difference (though I don't see this behavior with MDP->HDMI). I
> could check on the Mac mini which does have HDMI out connected to an
> Epson projector (sans speakers or mic), but I would expect an alert and
> no answer button.

That might be interesting, but irrelevant, since the Mini doesn't have a
built in display.

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No "Accept" button in OS X window when using HDMI video out Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> - 2014-03-15 00:04 +0000
  Re: No "Accept" button in OS X window when using HDMI video out Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-03-14 23:34 -0700
  Re: No "Accept" button in OS X window when using HDMI video out Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-15 12:33 +0000
    Re: No "Accept" button in OS X window when using HDMI video out Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> - 2014-03-15 14:53 +0000
      Re: No "Accept" button in OS X window when using HDMI video out Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> - 2014-03-16 19:15 +0000
        Re: No "Accept" button in OS X window when using HDMI video out Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-16 20:21 +0000
          Re: No "Accept" button in OS X window when using HDMI video out Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> - 2014-03-16 21:52 +0000
            Re: No "Accept" button in OS X window when using HDMI video out Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-03-16 18:16 -0400
              Re: No "Accept" button in OS X window when using HDMI video out Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> - 2014-03-17 00:16 +0000
            Re: No "Accept" button in OS X window when using HDMI video out Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-16 22:27 +0000
              Re: No "Accept" button in OS X window when using HDMI video out Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> - 2014-03-17 00:35 +0000
                Re: No "Accept" button in OS X window when using HDMI video out Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-17 13:13 +0000
                Re: No "Accept" button in OS X window when using HDMI video out Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> - 2014-03-17 15:45 +0000
                Re: No "Accept" button in OS X window when using HDMI video out Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-17 16:03 +0000
                Re: No "Accept" button in OS X window when using HDMI video out Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> - 2014-03-17 18:06 +0000
                Re: No "Accept" button in OS X window when using HDMI video out dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-03-18 12:19 +1300
                Re: No "Accept" button in OS X window when using HDMI video out Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> - 2014-03-18 14:02 +0000
                Re: No "Accept" button in OS X window when using HDMI video out Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> - 2014-03-18 20:25 +0000
                Re: No "Accept" button in OS X window when using HDMI video out dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-03-19 09:38 +1300

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